Trains No 9 And No 10, The Meteor - Train Consist - 1950

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  1. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Here is a Meteor consist taken from an aerial photo in a January 1950 "Trains" magazine article.

    The train was westbound on the Oklahoma Subdivision in Creek County Oklahoma, between Tulsa and Oklahoma City.

    Single E7A (EA7) diesel - in original Meteor silver sides scheme
    Lightweight RPO-Baggage
    Heavyweight Baggage - in red and silver scheme
    Lightweight Chair-Dormitory
    Lightweight Chair Car
    Lightweight Chair-Buffet-Lounge
    Lightweight 14-4 Sleeper - St. Louis-Oklahoma City sleeper line
    B&O Lightweight 14-4 Sleeper - Jersey City-Oklahoma City sleeper line
    Lightweight Diner-Lounge-Observation

    Tom G.
     
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  2. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Very nice find, Tom.

    1950's magazine photograph.

    Thanks for the info.
     
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  3. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    I've come to find out, that for a short period of time, the two unit Meteor diesel lash-up was split at Monet.

    One unit went to Tulsa and Oklahoma City, and the other pulled the Fort Smith connection of the Meteor.

    They did that for a while until the Oklahoma section got too heavy for one unit. There's a later Preston George photo in Collias' Frisco Power with the Meteor down in Oklahoma also with only one unit. The engine in that photo is one of the newer E8As.

    It's a really neat picture and a "Pike-Size Passenger Train" of seven or eight cars.

    TG
     
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  4. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    That's very interesting.

    Splitting the head end power meant that they must have had to turn the locomotives at each end and in between?
     
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  5. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    BTW, there's also a photo of the Fort Smith section with a single Meteor engine with fluted sides heading the train and five or so cars. I believe the photograph is posted here on the chat board, but not sure. An interesting operation.

    I never have figured out how they were turned at Monett.

    Turntable?

    Wye?

    But if the Oklahoma section was bigger than seven or eight cars, it wouldn't work any more.

    TG

    Edit: See this thread: http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread...-passenger-trains&highlight=meteor+fort+smith
     
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  6. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I guess they could be turned using the turntable.

    I don't know if the wye existed when the turntable was in use.
     
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  7. tmfrisco

    tmfrisco Member Frisco.org Supporter

    There was a wye at the west end of Monett.

    It had an east connection off the Ft. Smith line into Monett, and west connection off the Ft. Smith line on to the Cherokee Subdivision. I am certainly speculating, but I assume that this wye was in place during the time when Monett had the turntable.

    It would have been easier to turn any passenger engine on this wye than going back through the yard to the turntable location which was south of the main and east of the depot.

    Terry Jankowski
     
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  8. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    The wye sounds like it was the logical solution.

    Tom G.
     

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