Wide vision caboose with large coonskin

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  1. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I was browsing on Mike Condren's website and came across this picture showing SLSF239 in 1968:

    http://www.cbu.edu/~mcondren/Frisco Catalog/Others/FR561.jpg

    Does anybody know the story behind the large Black on yellow coonskin on the side of this caboose?

    Did the coonskin survive past the application of a 4 digit number later in 1968? (I believe 239 should have become 1239).

    It looks like it is in TOFC service, was it assigned to that service, or is that just a coincidence?

    Does anyone know if other cabooses were painted in this scheme?

    Thanks,
    Paul
     
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  2. diesel shop

    diesel shop Member

    I think it is a panal off a tri-level. I have a friend who has one that looks like the one in the photo and he said it was off a tri-level.
     
  3. diesel shop

    diesel shop Member

  4. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    You are correct, this is definitely a seperate panel, and it may have come from an autorack, but that doesn't answer any of the questions I asked in my original post.

    I'm just trying to figure out whether the use of the coonskin of this size was unique to this caboose, and durring what timeframe the large coonskin is appropriate for the side of the caboose.

    Paul
     
  5. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    There was a silver m/w caboose with a similar coonskin, though smaller (Nick Molo's book, page 121 #101166). Could those "signs" have been done with Scotchlite?? They look more "manufactured" than painted.

    Tom
     
  6. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Since some more photos of SLSF239 have been posted to this thread:
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?t=409&page=2

    I thought I'd bring up my questions about SLSF239 again....
    Was the use of the coonskin of this size unique to this caboose, and durring what timeframe is the large coonskin appropriate for the side of the caboose. (I'm hoping it made it into the 1970s, as SLSF1239, so I can use it on my layout).

    Paul
     
  7. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    Paul,

    I think I have a photo of the 1239 in the seventies. Let me check at home for the date and location. It still had the "yellow" panel coonskin on it.

    Nick
     
  8. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    Paul,

    Here is the 1239 photo in Mobile, Al 1970.

    Nick
     

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  9. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Nick, were the International WV caboose cupolas with wide side-window spacing unique to Frisco? Didn't you offer castings in HO for them at one time? If so, are they still available?

    Doug
     
  10. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Doug,

    In addition to the Frisco, at least the St. Louis Southwestern (SSW or Cotton Belt), a Southern Pacific subsidiary, and the Duluth, Missabe and Iron Range (DMIR) also had similar cupolas.

    All had the higher "western" style cupola. Hopefully, we can induce Nick to add these higher cupolas to his product line. The Atlas model has the shorter "eastern" close clearance cupola.

    Mark
     
  11. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks Nick!

    Now I can add even more variation to my Frisco caboose fleet.

    Paul
     
  12. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    Mark,

    You are correct that the Cotton Belt and DM&IR had similarly spaced cupola windows, although not totally the same. The DM&IR were smaller square 20x20 windows (and the panels were riveted like early versions of ICC cupolas), whereas the Cotton Belts were 20x24 sizes which differed slightly from the Frisco 20x26.

    Doug, at the moment I don't have plans to produce these cupolas, since as you can see above would be really for one railroad or not so accurate for another. The other cupola I produced with wide set windows was for the N&W and GN ICCs, two larger roads and well-patronized in buying models.

    NIck
     

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