Tsunami horn selection

Discussion in 'DCC' started by Iantha_Branch, May 16, 2012.

  1. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Today in the mail I received a locomotive that has a tsunami sound decoder in it. It didn't come with a manual and I've looked through the manual on the soundtraxx website and I can't figure it out or even find a list of horns. What CV do I program to what value to get a Leslie S5T like what the Frisco used?

    Ethan
     
  2. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    cv36 controls Function 2 which turns the horn on and off. You will have to determine which Tsunami you have, and look it up on the soundtraxx website to find out what horn selections you have.
     
  3. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    It has the AT1000. Now when I say looked, I mean scanned for a CV table with air horn names. I needed 2 go out 2 work so I didn't have much time. I will go through and read it better.

    Ethan
     
  4. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Well, if we have someone who is good at this.
    My Tsunami is a duel EMD 567 P.N. 827118.
    The right horn would be nice to know.
    Also how to turn on, the darn, not the headlight, the other one.
    I installed it in "Big Red" E-8
    Not really hard to know, I don't know much about this subject.
    Bill Jackson
     
  5. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    William,

    I'm confused still about the whole sound selection thing. I don't know what horn the E8's had, but I can help you with the "other light". You are referring to the mars light. Make sure it's wired separate from the head light and then set the CV of the function it's wired to to the Mars light option. This may be a different process with these sounds decoders from a normal decoder.

    Ethan
     
  6. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Thanks, couldn't think of mars light at the time I was writeing.
    Bill Jackson
     
  7. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ethan, look at the top of the big black square IC chip near the front end of the AT-1000 board. There will be a number written with a silver or white Sharpie on it. Let us know the number. That will determine which sound profile is recorded, then I can tell you exactly what CV to set and what value.

    Bill, a few things;
    1) what wire (function output) is your upper headlight bulb connected to?
    2) do you want the Mars light to come on when you turn on the headlight or control it separately?
    3) if you want it to come on with the headlight, do you want the Mars light to stay on in reverse?
     
  8. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Keith, I'll give you as much info as I can. It has a copy write date on it of 2000. I was talking to the guy I bought it from last night and he said that he though it was one of there earlier models, but he's not the one that installed it. If it's the biggest black chip I'm SOL because the info on it has been writen over by a black sharpie with the number 43. It does say SST in big letters. There are two smaller chips at the front that say 22-25L U6 and 100-6L U3. There is one in the model that has a white sticker on it that says BJ 953. Hope this can provide enough info. Also it sounds like there is a little bit of a short in there some were, I haven't had the time yet to take it apart and locate the problem. The short isn't major enough to cause a shut down, but it makes the buzzing noise a short makes.

    Ethan
     
  9. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Keith, I am real new to DCC. I just got my layout wired and running about two weeks ago. I wired in a program track, breaker with alarm and the wye is on a reversing circuit. The decoder works but I don't know how to do the CV's.
    I have not got to that level. All the layout is NCE. The engine, a Frisco E-8 works great. I suppose the headlight is CV 1 or 0 I don't know. It comes on when it goes forward and the " L " is on. The Mars light, I will be happy now, if it comes on with the headlight and blinks. I do my Internet and email on a I phone. I suppose I will need to go to the library and print the manual. I will be glad to pay for the parts of the manual I need, if someone has a copy they do not need. I talked to Soundtrax's and they don't send out copies.
    Bill Jackson
     
  10. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    For the horn, set cv 115 to a value of 4. That is what the card that comes with mine says. Hope this helps.
     
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  11. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Bob, yes I looked after your email. It is on the inside flap on the package. There is several different horns.
    Now the Mars light, it is not in there. Thanks if someone knows.
    Bill Jackson
     
  12. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    I finally got to work on it. I did find out what was causing the "short", it's either the capacitor or the speaker. When I say "short" I mean it makes the same noise as a short circuit, but doesn't act like it. I think on the new decoders the two are wired separate, but its all wired together. What can I do to figure out which is causing the problem?

    Ethan
     
  13. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Is the capacitor wired across the speaker or is it wired to one side of the decoder and to one side of the speaker? Look closely at the speaker. Is it cracked or ripped in any way.
     
  14. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Bob, the capacitor is wired in with the speaker. There is 1 wire that goes into the baffle, then one that comes out, connects to the capacitor, then the other leg of the capacitor connects back to the board. The speaker seems to be in tact. I noticed that on the newer decoders that the capacitor is separate. What would happen if I hooked up just the speaker, at least for a short time to test it, with out the capacitor?

    Ethan
     
  15. KMRwyCo

    KMRwyCo Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ethan; Here is a Tsunami wiring diagram straight from the manual. The capacitor is connected to 2 wires and not the speaker on the Tsunami.
    Are you sure you don't have the older DSX decoder? Dale Tsunami.jpg
     
  16. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Dale, I've seen this diagram. I don't know what it has in it. All I know it's soundtraxx and it looks just like the AT1000 they make now, with a few exceptions. I figured if the capacitor is wired in there with the speaker, it's there for a reason. While wiring in the Speaker with out it would answer which is causing the noise, I don't want to take a chance on damaging the speaker in case it's the capacitor.

    Bob, I tried a few different settings with CV115, and it gave me either the default horn or a different one and neither were right. CV115=4 was one of them that I tried.

    Now I've heard about how your suppose to have a programing track booster, or decoder pro for these. How ever right now I'm trying to program it on the regular programing track setting with the power cab. I'm not sure how effective it is at programing it still, I may look into getting the USB board for decoder pro.

    Ethan
     
  17. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ethan, take a look at this picture. If it does not look like this with the capacitor attached directly to the board with one black and one red wire it is an older Soundtraxx LC-100AT decoder. Attached are the Manuals for the LC series decoders.
     

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  18. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ethan:
    The capacator in question is a coupling capacator. One of its purposes is to filter out any DC noise that may be coming through from your decoders amplifier. THe capacator is most likely bad or it could be a problem with the decoder.
    Bob.
     
  19. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Keith, thanks for the picture, but if that is the correct one, mine is older than that. I'll post a picture. It doesn't have the solder pads were they're at in that picture for F5 and F6, and everything else is arranged differently.

    Bob, I will try hooking up the speaker without the capacitor and see what happens.

    Thanks for your help guys.

    Ethan
     
  20. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ethan:
    It sounds like you have one of the older LC decoders to me. I will look and see if I have one laying around and take a picture of it. I may even have a new cap. that I can send you. I'll look and see.
     

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