Springfield Terminal Division - List Of Stations and Mileposts

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  1. rogerrt477

    rogerrt477 Guest

    Nichols to So. Springfield, MO

    Nichols to So. Springfield, MO.

    M.P.----Station------------Built----P. C.------Abandoned
    197.6---Nichols------------1881---KCS&M---1992
    201.3---So. Springfield ---1881---"

    Predecessor Company
    1) KCS&M - Kansas City, Springfield & Memphis RR (1)

    Notes
    1) Connects with Ash Grove Subdivision and Springfield Subdivision at Nichols, MO.
    2) Connects with West Belt and Willow Springs Subdivision at South Springfield, MO.
    3) Became part of the Springfield Terminal Division.
    4) Ash Grove Subdivision diamond crossing of the Springfield Subdivision at Nichols Junction removed after the end of passenger operations on 12/9/1967. Removed 19??.
    5) Abandoned and track removed from Nichols Junction connection to Springfield Subdivision to just East of North Hillcrest Avenue, MP 235.9 (former Ash Grove Subdivision MP 199.8).
    6) Known as the "passenger main".
     
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  2. rogerrt477

    rogerrt477 Guest

    South Springfield to W. S. Junction, MO

    South Springfield to W. S. Junction, MO.

    M.P.----Station------------Built------P. C.--------Abandoned
    201.3---So. Springfield---1882 ------KCS&M
    203.9---Provision---------1882 ------"
    205.1---Hays--------------1882-------"------------1979
    205.6---W. S. Jct.---------1882------KCS&M----1979

    Predecessor Company
    1) Kansas City, Springfield & Memphis RR

    Notes
    1) Connects with West Belt, Ash Grove Subdivision and Willow Springs Subdivision at South Springfield, MO.
    2) Connects with Lebanon Subdivision and East Belt at Mill Street Junction and Chadwick (later Ozark) Branch at Southern (later Chadwick, then MK) Junction.
    3) Connects with Willow Springs Subdivision ""New" East Belt" or "Freight Main" at W. S. Junction after 1955.
    4) W. S. Junction is short for "Willow Springs" Junction.
    5) Became part of the Springfield Terminal Division.
    6) Known as the "passenger main".
    7) The "old" system General Office Building (GOB) is located one block South of this line segment at 309 North Jefferson Avenue. It has been repurposed as apartments called the Frisco Lofts.
     
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  3. rogerrt477

    rogerrt477 Guest

    North Springfield to South Springfield, MO (East Belt)

    North Springfield to South Springfield, MO (East Belt)

    M. P.---Station---------------------Built-----P. C.
    236.7---Eastern Junction---------1870----SP RR
    237.7 ---No. Springfield-----------1870-----"
    237.1---Pacific Street Junction---1883----SL&SF RY
    238.3---Pine Street Junction-----1883----"
    238.7---Mill Street Junction------1883----"
    239.1 ---So. Springfield------------1882----KCS&M RR
    240.o---Southern Junction--------1882----"

    Predecessor Company
    1) SP RR - South Pacifgic RR
    2) SL&SF RY - St. Louis and San Francisco Railway
    2) KCS&M RR - Kansas City, Springfield and Memphis RR

    Notes
    1) Connects with Lebanon Subdivision and Clinton Subdivision at Eastern Junction.
    2) Eastern Junction is a Y connection. The East leg connects with the Lebanon Subdivision, the West leg connects to the Lebanon Subdivision toward North Springfield and the South leg (Pacific Street Junction) connects toward South Springfield.
    3) Connects with Willow Springs Subdivision and Chadwick Branch at Southern Junction.
    4) Pine Street Junction, Southern Junction and Mill Street Junction form a Y connection. The north leg (Pine St. Jct.) connects toward Eastern Junction, the east leg (Southern (later Chadwick, then MK) Junction) connects with Willow Springs Subdivision and Chadwick (later Ozark) Branch and the west leg (Mill Street Junction) connects with Willow Springs Subdivision toward South Springfield.
    5) Southern Junction renamed Chadwick Junction 1883.
    6) Chadwick Junction renamed MK Junction after 1936. Renamed after track was abandoned between Chadwick and Ozark. The new junction station name developed from distant stations reached via the junction, Memphis, TN (southeast via the Willow Springs Subdivision) and Kissick, MO on the Ozark Branch.
    7) Connects with Ash Grove Subdivision and Springfield Subdivision at South Springfield.
    8) Became part of the Springfield Terminal Division.
    9) Known as the "East Belt". After the opening of the "new" East Belt in 1955, known as the ""Old" East Belt" or "Middle Belt".


    North Springfield to South Springfield, MO (West Belt)

    North Springfield to South Springfield, MO (West Belt)

    M. P.---Station---------------------Built---P. C.
    237.7---No. Springfield------------1887---SP RR
    238.0---Broad Street Junction---1870---SC RR
    238.5---Stock Yard-----------------1870---"
    24?.?---So. Springfield-------------1887---SC RR

    Predecessor Company
    1) SP RR - South Pacific RR
    2) SC RR - Springfield Connecting RR

    Notes
    1) Connects with Springfield Subdivision at North Springfield and Broad Street Junction.
    3) Connects with Ash Grove Subdivision at South Springfield.
    3) Connect with Clinton Subdivision at Broad Street Junction.
    4) Became part of the Springfield Terminal Division.
    5) Known as the "West Belt".
     
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  4. roger

    roger Guest

    Teed to W. S. Junction

    Teed to W. S. Junction

    M.P.----Station--------Built---P. C.
    203.3---Teed-----------1955---SLSF RY
    203.3---Eastern Jct.---1955---"
    206.2---W. S. Jct.------1955---"

    Predecessor Company
    1) SLSF - St. Louis-San Francisco RY

    Notes-
    1) Connects with Lebanon Sub, Eastern Division at Teed.
    2) Connects with Willow Springs Subdivision and "Old Passenger Main" to Nichols at W. S. Junction.
    3) W. S. Junction is short for "Willow Springs" Junction.
    4) Became part of the Springfield Terminal Division.
    5) The "new" system General Office Building was constructed adjacent to and just East of this line at 3253 East Chestnut Expressway in 1955.
    6) Known as the "New East Belt".
     
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  5. roger

    roger Guest

    Teed to Nichols, MO

    Teed to Nichols, MO

    M.P.----Station--------------------Built---P. C.
    236.7---Teed-----------------------1870---SP RR
    236.7---Eastern Jct.---------------1870---"
    237.7---No. Springfield-----------1870---"
    238.0---Broad Street Junction---1870---"
    238.5---Stock Yard----------------1870---"
    243.0---Nichols--------------------1870---"

    Predecessor Company
    1) SP RR - South Pacific RR

    Notes
    1) 1st train 5/3/1870.
    2) Connects with the Lebanon Subdivision at Eastern Junction.
    3) Connects with the Springfield Subdivision at North Springfield, MO.
    4) Connects with the Clinton Subdivision and the West Belt at Broad Street Junction.
    5) Connects with the Ash Grove Subdivision at Nichols, MO.
    6) Became part of the Springfield Terminal Division.
    7) Known as the Eastern Division "Main Line".
     
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  6. Does anyone have pictures of train on the passenger main, of the local trains and downtown switching operations? How about photographs when the passenger main was abandoned, on each end of the line, as well when the last trains went thru on the line?
     
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  7. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I've caught a few trains running through the old passenger main on my trips back to Springfield. The segment that is left still contains active industries. I don't have any Frisco era photos of my own however.

    I'm not actually sure when the connection at WS junction, the junction on the east side of town, was taken out of service. System Time Table #1 (effective October 17,1971) includes a 20 mph speed restriction on the old passenger belt from WS junction to Nichols. Springfield Terminal Division Time Table #4 (Effective April 22, 1979) includes a restriction of 10 mph on the old passenger belt, but, it doesn't mention WS junction at all.

    On the west side of town, at Nichols junction, the MoPac, and later UP, used the Nichols connection to the old passenger main to reach their own tracks via trackage rights, from Aroura. When the UP sold their remaining trackage to the Missouri and Northern Arkansas (about 1995) the trackage rights were changed to haulage rights. I'm not positive when the connection was removed, but I know it was after 1995.

    Paul
     
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  8. I take it this line was never a thru line except, for passenger trains. I notice form the downtown yard, west of this, is this ever used? I know the line ends now at Hillcrest St. I was surprised to notice one single covered hopper car out there last week.
     
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  9. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    At one time, this was the mainline of the Kansas City, Springfield and Memphis Railroad, a Frisco predecessor.

    Prior to the completion of the East belt in the 1950s, the line now known as the middle belt was used as a connection from the North Yard to the passenger main, allowing freights to head to Memphis. The middle belt is used to reach Tindle Mills and a few other industries downtown, as well as being the route that unit coal trains take to get out to the CU James River Power Plant at Kissick.

    The other trackage connecting the mainline to the old passenger belt is known as the west belt. It forms a connection from just west of the Broadway Street crossovers to the South Yard (the old passenger station site).

    Incidentally, If you look at the 2nd post in this thread, it tells us the section of the line from WS Junction to MP205.6 was abandoned in 1979.

    West of downtown, the trackage goes out past Paul Mueller. I know there are at least occasional loads sent out/received there. There's also a scrap yard and Libscom Feeds that receive loads near the point where the west belt meets the passenger belt.

    Incidentally, you may want to get yourself a copy of the December, 2003 Issue of Trains Magazine, which had an article on Springfield in the 1950s, which includes a map from the time.

    Also, take a look at the information on this site: http://www.rrstudy.com. The site talks about current plans to reconfigure the trackage in downtown, along with a few other changes to eliminate grade crossings (mostly from the east belt).

    Paul
     
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  10. there was alink on here some where for that decembeer 2003 issue and the link didnt work.. I live near these tracks,and walk past that scrap yard on occasion, notcied some of, the switches, and sidings etc. have been pulled behind muellers..

    Walking thru, the d town yard the other night i noticed a old foundated of a water pie for steam engines>?? and a old signal tower foundation? anyone know.

    Apprently muellers is not provdied rail service anymore either.

    And anyone know much on the m & ma line, i know its the old mp. and that it really goes no where except down almost to battlefield rd. to serve industries.

    Have noticed the one switcher pushing cars most days downtown about noon. But is there a yard or anything, or does there train, ever run on the bnsf tracks, or connect with the rest of the m & na 's tracks.


    Also at main st. you can still see the passenger station,, the foundations for the platforms are there, the parking lot etc. the station was on the left correct??? well on the right hand side there a brick building was that a frisco building as well? Its the one tan buinding no windows, before the grant st. bridge.
     
  11. What are you talking about Broad Street crossovers? I know the West Belt connection runs into the main next to the stock yard grounds and MFA feed mill just North of Division St.
     
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  12. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Sorry, that should have said "Broadway" Street. I've corrected it in the original post.

    You are correct, the West Belt runs from the end of the South Yard (the old passenger station) north to the stockyards. The stockyards are just west of the intersection of Commercial and Broadway streets, approximately parallel to the mainline.

    If you stop on Broadway and look west down the mainline, there is a set of crossovers to get between the westbound mainline and the southern most arrival/departure tracks (Long 1 to 4 South).

    Paul
     
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  13. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    There was (at one point in time) a steam locomotive shop on this site, it was on the south side of the old passenger main.

    Durring the diesel era, there was a diesel servicing track along the north side of the passenger station. This included a water pipe for filling the steam generator's water supply tank. The remnants of the servicing track are visible from Wall St. west of the Grant Ave. Viaduct.

    I can't tell you anything about any other foundations in the area, as I do not condone trespassing on railroad property.

    Perhaps they aren't, but it may be that service is rare.

    BNSF wouldn't be interested in keeping the line if there were no active industries on it.

    Yes, this is correct.

    It is the remnants of a branchline that once connected with the MP White River Route at Crane,MO. By 1973, the MP reached Springfield via trackage rights from Aroura, and all trackage between Battlefield,MO and Crane,MO was abandoned. The trackage from Battlefield,MO to Battlefield Road in Springfield was abandoned sometime durring the 1980s, after the MP/UP merger. The M&NA took over the line about 1995.

    There are a few tracks downtown that belong to the M&NA. I believe the M&NA has rights to use the South Yard, but I've never seen the interchange operation myself.

    No. The M&NA converted the trackage rights into Haulage rights shortly after aquiring the line. This is the reason BNSF took out the connection between the mainline and the passenger belt at Nichols.

    You will see the M&NA on the BNSF trackage on occasion. When the switcher assignments change, or when the switcher needs servicing. I know I've taken photographs of two different switchers parked behind Dayco in the last 3 years (I get home to Springfield about 2 times a year).

    The station was on the south side of the tracks. There are a couple of steel buildings there now. As you noted, the platforms foundations are still in place.

    The brick building on the north side of the tracks is the old Frisco Commissary. It was built durring the 1950s.

    At one time, the Frisco had a freight house that spanned the Jordan Creek, which is just south of where the passenger station stood.

    Paul
     
  14. I dont know if the frienght house is stil there but there is a small structure over the jordan creek is this it?
     
  15. Yea as far as the intercnange operations, there is currently the mna has one switcher which is almsot daily right behind th eold mp depot, around non every week day. as well the bnsf almost always have there switching crew in the d.town yard in mid afternnon btween 3-and 6 pm usually always the same engine 4257 an d old c-30 7 still in blue bonnet. this operation usually heads towards points east, kraft and oter industries around 10 am daily.

    as far as the coal drags to the power plant these can usually be caught headed south around. between 10pm and 1 am ,and usually the power returning light. around 4 am,
     
  16. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    No, the freight house is gone.

    Ther'es a photo of what it looked like on The Springfield Greene County Library's website here:
    http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/depots/images/photos/p01304.jpg

    For reference, this is from the page on The Frisco's Springfield Depot's:
    http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/depots/springfield.cfm

    The Frisco's Freight House was torn down sometime in the 1980s.

    Paul
     
  17. ok ive noticed from the the grant st, viaduck a small buinding over the creek though that may be it, down by the muellers, from the crossing before the overpasss and to the west . did this used to be double track?
     
  18. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    At one point in time there was double track leading in to the station from the east (street trackage on Mill Street), but i don't believe there was ever any double track west of the station.

    Paul
     
  19. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    There was a second track going east from the depot to the wye. I've looked through several ETT's, and I don't believe that it was ever desginated as a second main. Further poking around may change that notion.

    Attached is an old B&W Instamatic shot looking down Mill Street. Main Street is immediately behind me. The mainline is the track on the right side of the image, which was taken during July 1969.

    Also included are the Nichols Jct to MK Jct track charts that show the general alignment of the track. These are circa 1975, and by this time changes have been made at MK Jct. The MP crossing has been removed, and the MK JCT passing track has also been removed. The CTC MK Jct to WS Jct has been de-actived.

    Portions from ETT 38B, Sept. 28, 1952 are also shown.
     

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  20. searching around on rrpicturearchieves.net there are a couple pics, of passenger trains, street running on these tracks, i take it, thse are the same tracks, which run behind willowbrook, and dead end currently at boonville.?
     

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