Hello Everyone, I've been looking through all my normal resources for a picture or diagram of Frisco's 4-4-0's #108-113, but haven't found anything yet. These would have been acquired with the lease of the KCF&M/KCM&B in 1901, and were built by Baldwin in 1885-87 (according to Frisco Power; Stagner lists them as built in 1886-87). They were originally Kansas City, Memphis & Birmingham #4-9, then assigned #304-309 by Frisco in 1901, and renumbered once again by Frisco to #108-113 in the 1903 renumbering. To make things more confusing, Frisco also acquired two other 4-4-0's at the same time (1901) that were KCF&M #7-8, or Frisco #233-234 / #2233-2234. KCF&M #7-8 are not the same locomotives as KCM&B #7-8... even though KCF&M owned KCM&B. I presume from the lack of pictures and diagrams that #108-113 didn't have a very long service life on the Frisco. I'm just curious what they looked like and when they were scrapped. Any information is appreciated!
All but one were retired during the great mass extinction of '15-'16. 108 retired 5/16 109 retired 10/08 110 retired 4/15 111 retired 5/16 112 retired 4/15 113 retired 6/15
Richard, I looked at both versions of the diagram books you posted (a big THANK YOU for doing that, by the way!) and they skip from #96-103 to #114-115... assuming I didn't miss it somehow, always a possibility. Karl, I appreciate the retirement dates; however, it does make me wonder what led to #109's early demise... wrecked, boiler explosion or catastrophic mechanical failure I suppose. I'll keep searching for a picture; maybe one will turn up someday. My Thanks to both of you!
somewhere around here I have the complete Frisco steam locomotive roster which should have the build dates for the locomotives. since they were retired around 1915, they were probably built around 1880, so their service life was just over.
Here are a few bits of dimensional data from this class. Based on the information that I have, it is possible that 108 and 113 did not receive a "first" Frisco number during 1901. 108, nee KCM&B 4, built DEC 1886 109, nee Frisco 305, nee KCM&B 5 built DEC 1886; steam heat 110, nee Frisco 306, nee KCM&B 6 built NOV 1886; electric headlamp, steam heat 111, nee Frisco 307, nee KCM&B 7 built NOV 1886; electric headlamp, steam heat 112, nee Frisco 308, nee KCFS&M 8, built SEPT 1887; steam heat 113, nee KCFS&M 9, built SEPT 1887; electric headlamp, steam heat Boiler: Wagon Top Dia of First Course: 62" BP: 150psi Flues: 180 Flue Diam: 2" Flue Length: 11'-0 Firebox: 72" x 34-3/8" Cylinders: 17"x24" Wt on Drivers: 52,500 lbs Eng Wt: 84600 lbs Eng & Tender: 158600 lbs TE: 13100 lbs Driver Diam Ctrs: 56" Driver Journal: 7"x8" Eng Trk Diam: 28" Eng Trk Journal: 5"x9" Coal: 8 Tons Water: 3000 Gal Tender Wheel Diam: 33" Tender Journals: 4"x7"
Thanks Karl, that is some good information! The dimensional data helps, I appreciate you taking the time to post it.
