Score! Hallmark SLSF 182-187 4-4-0 almost new, $157.00

I'm happy. I just scored an almost brand new, little use Hallmark SLSF 182-187 4-4-0 for $157.00 on eBay.

I'm planning on back dating this gem to the early 1900 so the valve gear goes, the compound compressor goes, and if I can find a suitable square top steam chest to fit her, then that swap will be done.

I will offer the parts here for y'all, but right now, I'm stoked. Finally a Frisco 4-4-0!

Manny

 

Congrats! Finds like that are fun!

 

Haha, as soon as she arrives, I'll post up some pics! Gotta love the Frisco!

 

Lucky.................................

 

HOW FUNNY, I THINK I WAS BIDDING ON THE SAME ONE!!!!

 

Really? I didn't bid till last minute. There were two guys who were nickel and dimming each other. It made me feel like the auction was being rigged by driving the bid up to where the seller wanted a minimum price, because when it got to $150.00, all bidding stopped.

I have no proof of that and don't want to falsely accuse. It just seemed like it.

 

Hey Y'all,

I just received my SLSF 182-187 4-4-0. Gorgeous! I love it. Check it out!

Manny

 

Data Information included with the engine:

SLSF "Frisco" 4-4-0 182 Series

The locomotives of this class were originally built by the Pittsburgh Company in 1899 for the St. Louis-Memphis & Southeastern Railroad. When this road became property of the Frisco, Locomotives 183 and 187 were rebuilt in 1928. Four additional locomotives in the 182 series were rebuilt in 1929. The modernization program consisted of conversion to oil-burners, installation of front-end throttle, superheater and feedwater heater. Also added was a home-made version of Walschaert type valve gear and a feed water pump on the left side instead of an injector. The cylinder and steem chest head covers were chrome nickel plated. These engines were handsome in appearance-with green paint, gold lettering and striping. During WWII and after the 182 series locomotives operating in Texas and Oklahoma were painted black with gold striping and lettering.

These 4-4-0's replaced 4-6-0's on some light passenger runs. Locomotives 183 and 187 were assigned to locals 11 and 12 between St. Louis and Springfield, a fast and difficult schedule. They maintained average speeds of 34.2 miles per hour, while making 54 regular and flag stops. They were highly dependable and economical to operate, much more so than the majority of Gas-electrics used on branch line service, demonstrating the advantage of light but modern power in certain classes of passenger service.

Locomotive 182 was in service on the QA&P, part of the Frisco System, and was affectinately known as the "Galloping Goose" on that road. The locomotives of the 182 service gave faithful service to the very last days of steam, a period of over fifty years!

Locomotive data:

Engine Weight: 152400 lbs
Tractive effort: 18500 lbs
Boiler Pressure: 200 lbs
Cylinders: 17x26
Driver Diameter: 69 inches

Paint Scheme:

Black boiler, cab and cab roof and tender
Graphite & Oil smokebox and Firebox
Red coonskin

8" Dome number
4" Coonskin number

15" rear tender number
20" side tender number


All information from the insert within the Hallmark model.

 

I really don't know much about these, but that is a real beauty. That seems like a very reasonable price. What do they go for, provided another one was available? William Jackson

 

According to the Brass Guide:

CLASSIFICATION

Scale: HO Catagory:

Steam Subcategory:

Road: Frisco (St.Louis–San Francisco) (FRISCO)

Whyte: 4-4-0

Description: #182 AMERICAN

Importer: Hallmark Models Inc. (HALL)

Catalog:

MANUFACTURE Builder: KYONGDONG Year(s): 1978

Qty Made:

PRICE Original MSRP: 129
Current Price: 250

NOTES UNPAINTED - #182-187

 

Man, that is really bad. The only thing worse is that I didn't get it for a hundred. William Jackson

 

Mind you, that is only what the Brass Guide says. It doesn't mean that in this economy, you'll get that. Maybe it's time to whip out "Emperor of the North" and see what we have coming right around the bend...

 

Bobbye Hall was known to make mistakes with her Frisco steam. Only the 183 and 187 were equipped with Coffin FW Heaters. The use of that appliance was not repeated with the remainder of the class, which used Hancock-10 injectors on the 184-186; the 182 used Hancock-9 injectors. The smokebox on 183 and 187 was 5" longer than that of their sisters. The Frisco had in these locomotives a 4-4-0 second to none.


See page 18... http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/magazines/fem_1928_11/fem_1928_11_16.pdf

 

Just as information:
That was meant as a joke.
I don't have any brass and have no idea of the value.
Guess I should said ha-ha
William Jackson

 

Jim,

This engine won't be difficult to back date. The toughest will be to find the close enough tender. All other pieces should come off with the help of a soldering iron. I'm debating now to backdate, only because it is such a beautiful engine. But if I must, I must.
Going with the "It's my railroad" mantra just doesn't seem right here.

 

Yeah, I'm going after that one too!