Passenger Service Assigned Locomotive Servicing - St. Louis

Discussion in 'Passenger Operations' started by geep07, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Where were the locomotives, steam and diesel, assigned to passenger trains departing St. Louis Union Station to Springfield or Oklahoma or Memphis serviced?

    Were they serviced, fuel, sand , etc., at Lindenwood Yard and backed down to Union Station to pick up the passenger cars and depart to their assigned destination?

    Or did Chouteau Yard have facilities to administer service to them?

    John
     
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  2. gstout

    gstout Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Lindenwood, I think.

    GS
     
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  3. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Thank You!

    It makes sense.

    I had conversation about this subject with my operating session group and they would think Lindenwood too.

    Anyway, it gives another option to my passenger train operating scheme.

    Another fun thing to do!

    John
     
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  4. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    They were serviced at Lindenwood and backed down to Union Station.

    They also picked up their clearance form and any train orders, etc. at the Tower. They moved west on the service track to get on the main at Southeastern Jct, picked up orders and backed downtown.

    At that time, it was signaled all the way down, so they didn't have to run at restricted speed.
     
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  5. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Restricted speed.

    Most hated, not good for anyone.
     
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  6. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    My vision of restricted speed. Don't move at a speed that will hit anything, nor go over a switch/de-rail/butterfly.

    A most "restrictive movement". A crew can go dead on law (DOL) just going a few feet at restricted speed. A crew can propose the absolute turn of a wheel, is a violation of restricted speed. You can go DOL just siting there.

    With today's railroad atmosphere, I will take the safe route.
     
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  7. Here in Oklahoma, Frisco had their yard in Tulsa and a smaller yard in Enid and then depot's in the smaller towns
     
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