Lyons, Kansas info.

Discussion in 'Burrton Subdivision' started by kgomez, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. kgomez

    kgomez Member

    I would like to find out what all I can about Lyons, Kansas. I know a great deal about the RR history here(in Lyons, I live "here"). I know mostly about the ATSF's presence here in Lyons, but not much about the Frisco, and even less about the MoPac(I guess I should save the MoPac questions for their forum:)) Any and all info is appreciated.



    Kyle Gomez
    17 years
    Senior, Lyons High
     
  2. Rick Morgan

    Rick Morgan Member

    Here's some construction and abandonment info from my notes. ANy additions/corrections welcome. I was through Lyons last month and shot the former ATSF depot there.

    ATSF
    Marion & Mc Pherson RR Florence to East line of Barton County 93mi 1879-80
    Marion & Mc Pherson Extension RR E. Line of Barton Cty to Ellinwood 5.5 1881
    Combined as Marion & McPherson RY, 1882
    To ATSF 1901
    To Central Kansas 1993
    To Kansas & Oklahoma 2001

    Lyons to Conway abandoned by CK 2001

    MP
    Salina, Sterling & El Paso RR Sterling to Geneseo 22.2 1887
    To Kansas, Colorado & Pacific RY 1891
    To Missouri Pacific RY 1909
    To K&O 2001

    SLSF
    Kansas Midland RY Medora to Ellsworth 57mi 1888
    To St Louis & San Francisco RR 1900
    To Burlington Northern RR 1980
    To Central Kansas RY 1993

    Medora to Lyons abandoned by BN 1985
    Lyons to Lorraine to Galatia abandoned by CKRY 1997

    You may want to check the KS Department of Transportation web page; it has old county road and rail maps available for download back to the 1930s and 40s; they also have a KS rail map with abandonments listed on it.

    Rick Morgan
     
  3. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Kyle -
    The Frisco "Official List of Officers, Stations, Agents, Etc." No. 18 from 5-1-1926 lists no agent for Lyons (Station F577), MP 577.4 "N S" is the telegraph call, and there is a Western Union Telegraph Office listed there - call sign "C D"

    There is also a "Lyons Salt Co." listed at MP 574.7 (Station F575); it is not listed as a railroad freight or ticket station.

    This reference also lists Lyons as a coaling station, with "cars" as the source (e.g. coal brought in gondolas or hoppers and shoveled to the locomotive tender as needed). Interestingly...there are no stock pens listed for Lyons.
     
  4. kgomez

    kgomez Member

    thanks a bunch, guys. keep it coming! :)
     
  5. MFreix

    MFreix Member

    Does anyone know what kind of cars the salt company received or shipped?
     
  6. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Matthew -
    Just a guess on my part, but I reckon it was mostly boxcars in the pre-WWII era.

    The November, 1926 "Frisco Employee's Magazine" has a feature article on the Western & American Salt Cos. in Lyons:

    http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/frisco/magazines/fem_1926_11/fem_1926_11.pdf

    It notes that 600 cars of salt a month were moved over the Frisco from Lyons; the salt was apparently shipped in at least two ways: salt that was apparently sacked and sold to the commercial trade for farmers and others for general purposes, and then shipped in bulk for general purposes.
     
  7. MFreix

    MFreix Member

    If modeling this in the 80's would I be safe in assuming covered hoppers and boxcars still?

    I may have to take a trip to central KS and document all remaining industry along the line.

     
  8. mvtelegrapher

    mvtelegrapher Member

    In the 1980's mostly boxcars with some covered hoppers. I work for Watco/KO and we still get boxcars of salt and a few covered hoppers today from North American Salt in Lyons.

    John Chambers
     

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