Lamar, MO, Ash Grove Subdivision, MP 138.7

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  1. Frisco depot Lamar, MO

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  2. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

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    Lamar, MO depot - Sanborn Map :)
     

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  3. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

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    Lamar, MO depot site & Frisco-BNSF Employee depot :)
     

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  4. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

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    Thanks for posting that Sanborn map.

    Now I know what that old building used to be.

    My mom works right across the creek from that old flour mill.
     
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  5. Joe Davis

    Joe Davis Member

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    Don't you love those old fire maps?!

    I have this one and several others including a few that go back to the late 1880's.

    They are a wealth of information.

     
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  6. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    I saw an advertisement in the paper this evening that stated some one in Lamar was looking for a front view photograph of the Lamar Frisco depot from the 1930s.

    Anyone have one?

    Also I checked missouridepots.com and they have one from 1910s and 1957.

    They appear to be different so if someone knows of when it was rebuilt that may be helpful in locating a photograph.

    Thanks,

    Ethan
     
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  7. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The original Lamar depot was built during 1880.

    It was "remodeled" during 1946.
     
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  8. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Thanks Karl.

    So does any one know of a front view photograph of the Lamar depot pre 1946?
     
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  9. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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  11. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Here we are at the Frisco Depot in Lamar, Missouri at the Frisco Depot and we see Frisco No. 706 EMD GP-35 built in 1964. The train will be picking up order here as the hoop is out.

    Karl Brand:

    If one looks closely at the bricks in the platform, the scar of a derailment may be seen.

    After the mass extinction of Frisco passenger service on September 17, 1965, we had to change our travels to and from my grandparents’ farm, which was located near Lockwood. We had to take the new Southland between KCUS and Lamar, where my grandfather retrieved and delivered us.

    During the spring of 1967, while awaiting the arrival No 102, my brother and I noticed the damaged platform bricks, and we asked the agent about it. He told us that he had left his office to do a roll by inspection.

    As the train left the rails, he saw a truck exit the stack of derailing cars. The truck’s path placed it on a collision course with the depot, and the agent beat a hasty retreat. Fortunately, the agent escaped without injury, and the errant truck missed the depot, although it did knock-down the train order rack and the train order board.

    Twenty-seven cars of a northbound freight derailed February 20, 1967, and caused the mayhem. The Southland and Ash Grove Sub freight trains were rerouted over the Carthage Subdivision and the Afton Subdivision.

    SLSF #706 EMD GP35 Lamar Mo 1964.jpg
     
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  12. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Thanks for posting that one Keith.

    Frisco photographs from the Lamar area are hard to come by.
     
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  13. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    I didn't see a date posted with this photograph, so I did a little digging.

    SLSF 706 was repainted late spring of 1972. The fading and weathering would indicate this is about a year later in 1973. I think its a pretty close match to this photograph dated from June of 1973.

    http://frisco.org/mainline/wp-conte...uri-in-June-1973-Golden-Spike-Productions.jpg

    Based on the shadows, I am guessing this is early afternoon in late summer. So I'm guessing this was taken August of 1973. The closest timetable I could find was 1975. That ETT indicates that train No 135 was scheduled southbound at 2:02 pm, which I think is a close match to this photo.
     
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  14. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    From Richard Crabtree on Frisco Rails Across Missouri:

    Here we are at the Frisco Depot in Lamar, Missouri. Lamar was laid out in 1856. It was named for Mirabeau B. Lamar, second president of the Republic of Texas. The railroad made it here in 1880 and the depot was built the following year in 1881.

    Photo 1) Frisco Depot in Lamar, Missouri circa 1920
    Photo 2) Frisco Depot in Lamar, Missouri Blueprint ~ MSU Digital Collection
    Photo 3) Frisco Depot in Lamar, Missouri circa 1950 looking east
    Photo 4) Frisco Depot in Lamar, Missouri 1955

    Click here for current view.

    https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syj...

    Frisco Depot Lamar, Mo 1920.jpg Frisco Depot Lamar, Mo plan.jpg Lamar, Mo aerial view south 1950.jpg Frisco Depot Lamar, Mo 1955.jpg
     
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  15. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Thanks for sharing some more Keith.

    I dont think I have seen the 3rd picture before, but I would like to offer a correction to the description: This is actually looking east. This photo shows the Missouri Pacific depot between 10th and 11th Streets, the old Lipscomb Elevator. It predates the bigger MFA elevator that is further south in Lamar.

    Additionally, the Harry S. Truman birthplace is visible in this shot. It is in the Southwest corner of 11th and Truman. 11th is the street on the south side of the MP depot, and Truman is the first street on the west side of the tracks.

    Fun fact: 10th Street was originally named Pacific Street for the MP railroad. It was changed sometime in the early 1900s.

    Gulf street retained its name for the Kansas City, Ft Scott and Gulf.

    Not sure when the Lipscomb elevator was built. I will have to see if grandpa knows.

    It would have closed a few years after the MFA elevator opened, so around 1955.

    Ethan
     
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