Hello from Denver - New Member Mike Bowline

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  1. mbowline

    mbowline Mike Bowline bottomslover

    Hello to the Group!

    My name is Mike Bowline, I live in Denver yet my heart remains in Kansas City after growing up in Lawrence and going to KU.

    I lived in Tulsa before and during the BN overtake, so I got to see lots of Frisco action.

    After 20 years in N scale, aging eyes have dictated a shift in scale to HO with the promise of SOUND. :) My N scale Arkansas and Union RR will be abandoned in favor of a new direction in HO.

    I am researching and designing a 11'x10' around-the-wall HO layout depicting the Kansas City Terminal and all the action around the West Bottoms and the 19th Street Yard area.

    But I have so much to learn about who owned what yard in 1949-1953, the era I am considering modeling. The literature so far researched just tells me who owned and operated which yards within the recent past. I need to learn more about the 1949-1952 timeframe. I hope to learn who owned and operated yards: Neff, Avondale, Knoche, Armourdale, Armstrong, Murray, 19th Street (Frisco?), Quindad,, Mill St.

    See, I do have a LOT to learn!! But the learning is fun for me and I would like to ensure my modeling is somewhat historically accurate, especially for when some of you stop in Denver to say hello on your way to the slopes :cool:.

    So that's it. Hello and I look forward to learning from many of you as I move forward.
     
  2. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Mike, by all means Welcome Aboard.

    The West Bottoms has had lots of discussion on the board. Some of the links you would be interested in are:
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?t=2169

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?t=2224

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?t=2668

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?t=2128

    All of the above are some samples from this search:
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/search.php?searchid=109588

    The Small Layout Design Catalog that we started can also provide some ideas for the West Bottoms as well as other areas:

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?t=3450

    If you can ever arrange to make the trip to KC, I would strongly recommend that you coordinate your visit with Rick McClellan, Mark Davidson (mark) and yours truly Keith Robinson (klrwhizkid). With enough advance planning we could arrange a walking/driving tour of the West Bottoms, get you in to see some layouts that feature the local area, and maybe an operating session as well. The local modelers are a great group!

    BTW, the Frisco had 19th St and Rosedale yards here and are modeled nicely on Rick's Frisco Northern Division.
     
  3. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    Mike,

    For some strange reason I like you already . . .

    1. Graduate of KU

    2. Frisco fan

    3. KC area modeler

    4. HO scale

    5. Late 40s, early 50s modeling

    Welcome to the group.
     
  4. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Hello Mike
     
  5. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Hello Mike
    I'm Tom, Live in Grand Junction, if you ever get over on the Western slope, let me know.
    Perhaps we can paint the town Mandarin Orange or Black and Yellow:D
    Tom
     
  6. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Mike,

    Welcome aboard!

    Below is a quick run down of the 13 railroads in Kansas City during your time frame and their primary yards in the metropolitan area.

    Frisco - Rosedale (outbound), 19th Street (inbound)
    Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe - Argentine
    Located west of downtown, south of the Kansas River, on either side east and west of today's I-635.
    Chicago Burlington and Quincy (after 1970 that other road) - Murry
    Located north of downtown, just east of today's Downtown Airport (Kansas City's major airport before today's Kansas City International Airport)
    Chicago Great Western (after 1968 Chicago North Western) - Ohio Avenue
    Located in the West Bottoms, just south of and parallel to today's I-70 Lewis and Clark Viaduct that links downtown KC, MO and KC, KC, east of Ohio Ave. and west of Mullbury, St.
    Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific (after April 1980 Saint Louis Southwestern (a/k/a Cotton Belt)) - Armourdale
    Located west of downtown, north of the Kansas River, west of 7th Street (KC, KS), adjacent to the west end of UP's Armstrong Yard.
    Gulf, Mobile & Ohio (before 1947 Chicago & Alton, after 1972 Illinois Central Gulf) - 12th Street (inbound), Lydia (outbound)
    12th Street - Located in the West Bottoms, just south of the 12th Street viaduct, immediately adjacent to the northeast of Frisco's 19th Street Yard.
    Lydia -Located northeast of downtown, immediately north of and adjacent to the river bottoms bluff, under and east of today's I-29, south of E. 1st St.
    Kansas City Southern / Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul & Pacific (Joint Agency) - Knocke
    Located east of downtown in the East Bottoms, north of the river bluffs, west of today's I-435, north of the MP Neff Yard.
    Kansas City Terminal - Mill Street
    Located west of downtown, north of the Kansas River, west of 7th Street (KC, KS), several blocks south of the CRIP and UP Yards.
    Missouri Kansas Texas - Glen Park
    Located northeast of Frisco's Rosedale Yard, adjacent and parallel to Southwest Boulevard, east of 7th Street (KC, KS), southwest of the Kansas City Terminal (KCT) Railway engine facilities.
    Missouri Pacific - Neff
    Located east of downtown in the East Bottoms, adjacent to and just north of the river bluffs, west of today's I-435, south of the KCS/MILW Knocke Yard.
    Union Pacific - Armstrong
    Located west of downtown, north of the Kansas River, east of 7th Street (KC, KS), adjacent to the east end of CRIP's Armourdale Yard.
    Wabash (after 1964 Norfolk and Western) - Avondale
    Located northeast of downtown, north of the Missouri River, under and northeast of today's I-23 / I-29, just south of today's Missouri Highway 210.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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  7. cnwtrainman

    cnwtrainman Member Frisco.org Supporter

    A FRISCO fan in Denver! Well that makes up for being a Jayhawk.
     

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