Frisco Standard Plan TOFC Ramps

Discussion in 'TOFC Facilities' started by Karl, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The Frisco had two variations of standard TOFC ramp, i.e., dirt-filled and timber. The Standard Plan Book circa 1979-1980 does not show a concrete ramp. During the late 20's and 30's the Frisco added ramps at many locations for the purpose of unloading new automobiles from flats and boxcars. The Northern Division B&B inventory shows one at Grennfield, Mo. I will post a URL later.
     

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  2. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks Karl:

    This would make a great modeling project and probably not that hard to build. May need one at Fredonia.
     
  3. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Neat drawings, Karl. Were you one of the crowd watching Chris Carpenter's performance last night at MMP?

    I think the ramp in Cape Girardeau (c. mid-1990s) in the background might have filled the purpose that you describe.

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?1161-Cape-Girardeau-MO&p=8303#post8303

    I'd presume that these types of ramps would have been "team" tracks the recipients? If so, to echo Bob's comments, a team track/ramp can serve as justification for spotting just about any type of car for any type of recipient.

    Best Regards,
     
  4. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The Frisco also had an unloading dock (for lack of a better term) here in Parsons. It was on the East side of town and served a industry called Wilson Lumber. It was a concrete wall that had dirt backfilled up to the wall on the southside of the tracks. I believe it has been removed but I will drive down a take a look. The City of Parsons recently turned that part of the Frisco Line into a short Bike Trail.
    Bob Wintle
     
  5. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The Frisco listed these piggyback ramp locations in a Nov 1961 document.

    Kansas City
    Springfield
    West Plains
    Joneboro
    Memphis
    Tupelo
    Birmingham
    Mobile
    Pensacola
    St Louis
    Joplin
    Monett
    Vinita
    Tulsa
    OKC
    Chickasha
    Ft Sill
    Altus
    Floydada
    Rogers
    Okmulgee
    Muskogee
    Henryetta
    Ada
    Sherman
    Ft Worth
    Dallas
    Wichita
    Enid
    Clinton, OK
    Bytheville

    As mentioned previously, the Frisco placed ramps to facilitate automobile unloading with ramps that antedate TOFC. The URL links to a drawing of the ramp in Greenfield.
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2216&d=1140073463
     
  6. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The 1974 "List of Stations" book has the following TOFC ramps listed:
    Aberdeen,MS
    Ada,OK
    Birmingham,AL
    Blytheville,AR
    Cape Girardeau,MO
    Carthage,MO
    Chickasha,OK
    Crystal City,MO
    Durant,OK
    Enid,OK
    Fayetteville,AR
    Fort Sill,OK
    Fort Smith,AR
    Fort Worth,TX
    Frisco City,AL
    Henryetta,OK
    Irving,TX
    Jonesboro,AR
    Joplin,MO
    Kansas City,MO
    Lamar,MO
    Lawton,OK
    Memphis,TN
    Miami,OK
    Mobile,AL
    Monett,MO
    Muskogee,OK
    Neosho,MO
    Oklahoma City,OK
    Okmulgee,OK
    Osceola,AR
    Paris,TX
    Parsons,KS
    Pensacola,FL
    Rogers,AR
    Sherman,TX
    Springdale,AR
    Springfield,MO
    St. Louis,MO
    Trumann,AR
    Tulsa,OK
    Tupelo,MS
    West Plains,MO
    Wichita,KS

    If I typed those in correctly, there should be 44 total.

    Paul
     
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  7. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    One other point of reference ( for now, I think I still have one later list)

    The1969 "Station Master" lists 43 TOFC ramps, but not all of the locations are on the 1974 list I posted last night.

    Those on the 1969 list that are not on the 1974 list are:
    Altus,OK;Clinton,OK;Sikeston,MO;Vinita,OK;Winfield,KS

    Those on the 1974 list which are not on the 1969 list are:
    Cape Girardeau,MO; Frisco City,AL; Lamar,MO; Parsons,KS;Springdale,AR; Trumann,AR

    Paul
     
  8. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    In the final years, the Frisco also used the TOFC ramp area of 29th Street Yard here in Wichita for container unloading. Was that the case in other locations?
     
  9. wmrx

    wmrx MP Trainmaster

    The piggyback ramp at Carthage, MO is concrete. My uncle, Wayne Edgerton, was on the B&B gang that built it. He took me on a tour of the bunk cars while they were in town. This would have been in the late '60s. This ramp is still in existence, although I doubt that it has been used in quite a few years.
     

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