Frisco Lead Line Ore Train

Discussion in 'Salem Branch' started by klrwhizkid, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Attached is a photo that I purchased of a Frisco Lead Line Ore Train supposedly between Cuba and Cherryville, Mo.

    Photographer unknown. SLSF #587, SLSF #540 and SLSF #525

    As usual for me, anything Frisco I own/purchase that can be scanned and posted has been unless I am aware of any copyright applied.
     

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  2. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    What a great find, Keith. Your photo really shows very clearly the rooftop detail of the GP-7.
    It is a gem of first quality :)
     
  3. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    If those are concrete ties, the location would be between Lead Jct and Cherryville, Mo. We always crossed the line on Mo 19 just before Cherryville on our way down to our favorite fishing lodge when I was a kid. It was neat seeing those clean looking concrete ties.

    Ken

    ps - Agree with Sherrel - very easy to correctly detail the top of the Atlas geep based on this pic.
     
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  4. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Looking at the picture and my high resolution scan, the ties are concrete.
     
  5. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith,
    I have a recollection that this picture appeared on the cover of All Aboard not long after the line was completed. It's a great pic. The train rated a wide vision road caboose, too.
     
  6. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Concrete ties are horrible!!! We had them in the old Atlantic Coast Line yard just south of the James River Bridge and they were awful. Absolutely no give. You felt every little imperfection in the track and made the GP's rough handling. I hated working the switchbacks there. My butt doesn't forget the rough ride it received compliments of those concrete ties. I have to say that concrete ties were a dismal failed experiment. Give me regular ties any day!

    Nice picture of the cutout. Not only does the picture give good perception on the GP7's for you powered boxcar guys, but the landscaping can be mimicked easily with foam and a cutting knife. Awesome stuff. Keep it coming.
     
  7. treefrog

    treefrog Member Frisco.org Supporter


    Beautiful! Elegant!

    Ricky Mathews|-|
     
  8. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith,

    I believe the photo was taken a few miles east of Cherryville from a county road bridge over the tracks. Of all things the county road is named hobo road. There is a photo of a quartet of GP-38-2 on the fallen flags website shot in 1975 that I think was taken very close to the same place. Amazing to think there was enough traffic to justify 8000 hp worth of motive power. Thanks for sharing the photo with the rest of us.

    Brad
     
  9. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

  10. wpmoreland719

    wpmoreland719 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Nice photo, Keith! I've never seen this one before. This has to be one of the first trains over the Lead Line. I believe that the GP38-2's were pressed into Lead Line service as soon as they made the roster, and the GP35's occasionally even showed up. The era of GP7's as the staple of power would have been short lived. In fact, I had doubts that they ever worked this line at all until you posted this.

    Pat Moreland,
    Union Mo.
     
  11. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I took a look at the lead line track charts to see if I could pinpoint the location of the GP7's in Keith's pic. From Brad's estimate of the location, I'm guessing the train is westbound (towards Cuba) at MP AC111, east of Cherryville. The pic was taken at the forest service road overpass there. I'm guessing the cars are loaded, which makes sense for a westbound, but it's hard to tell since the lead ore is so heavy the cars were not filled to the top.

    MP AC111, loaded, westbound. Anybody else have a better guess?

    Ken
     
  12. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I visited the area on Google Earth - see the attached pic.

    The overpass is the forest service bridge at MP AC111 on the lead line. To the right (east) is the cut seen in the GP7's pic. The train was headed west, towards Lead Junction at MP AC101, and then to Cuba, MO to join the SLSF Eastern Division.

    Ken
     

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