Coonskin number plate

Discussion in 'General' started by timothy_cannon, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Is there a standard dimension for the smoke box number plates? Does anyone know what those dimensions are? What font was used for the numbers?
    Thanks!
    Tim
     
  2. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    I have a company print, and will dig it out and look for you.
     
  3. DanHyde

    DanHyde Member

    Don,
    I just aquired a pair of caboose candle lamps. Not Frisco, but I thought they were cool anyhow! Would a Coonskin sconce turned verticle be too out of form? I thought they would look good on my walls like that, in case of power failures! lol
    Dan
     
  4. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Here is the progress thus far on my O scale number plates for steam loco smoke box/headlight bracket. I guess they don't exist so I am making my own. I am casting them in resin after making the pattern by hand. this is the first one near completion minus the white border and numbers. I have cast about a dozen or so and think I am almost there. I am guessing at the size. These are a little shy of a scale 2 feet wide. I hope to get it accurate with the correct dimensions and number font.
     

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  5. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Looks perfect. How did you make the original?
     
  6. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    First, I printed what looked like a good coonskin on the printer, cut it out and glued it to a piece of styrene. Next, I filed and filed and filed until it looked right. Then, I pressed this "master" copy into clay provided in the casting kit. I then made the protruding edge by taking a very tiny flat screw driver and going around the entire edge of the coonskin pressing it deep enough into the clay for the resin to fill. After hardening, I took this resin pattern, cleaned and filed it into shape. I also made it a little flatter with some sand paper. I then made a rubber mold, poured resin and started mass producing. Pictured is my coonskin master and some other part casting I am doing.
     

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  7. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    That's neat. I've never tried casting but you make it seem easy.
     
  8. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Crap I was going to look up that drawing for you. I promise I will do it. Basically, it is a 2:1 thing. Twice as long as it is high.
    Kemtron (Precision Scale) used to make an O scale coonskin number plate/headlight bracket. Don't know if they still do or not.
     
  9. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Don, Thanks. That drawing will help me a bunch!
    Tim
     
  10. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    OK I started looking for the drawing today. I thought it was someplace it isn't. I spend most of my time looking for stuff. I WILL find that drawing.
    I'm thinking it's 12 x 24 over the points if that helps.
     
  11. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    I went through downloads from this site and found drawings for "Frisco" Monogram Coonskins to go on freight cars. These have well-marked dimensions. Unfortunately, they are not what is requested here, and worse I do not know where they exist on the site.

    On the other hand, there was discussion in this thread about standard dimensions for these plates:

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/number-plate-coonskin-dimensions.4825/

    Further, this photo, albeit from an old prototype, is shot square-on. It could be sized using the above dimensions to provide an acceptable guide for a locomotive number coonskin:

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17794&d=1328028043

    No substitute for Don's drawing to be sure, but when reduced to 1/87, or even 1/48, it might be o.k. DanHyde should wait for something more accurate :).

    George Nelson
     
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  12. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    This may be of help...
    four_aces_plate.jpg
     

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  13. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Is that for real Karl? I always thought it was something you made.
     
  14. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I did not make it, but as is the case with most acquisitions there is a very cool story behind it.
     
  15. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Tim - thanks very much for sharing your technique. I've really been intrigued with a casting kit at Hobby Lobby; your directions and photos are cause for renewed interest in giving casthing on my own a try.

    Best Regards,
     
  16. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    I've looked everywhere I can think of and haven't found the drawing, so here's a photo of a casting. I've Photoshopped out the info on it for clarity and by request of the owner.
    I've dimensioned it and it should be sufficient for anyone to work with.
     

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  17. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Here is an official Coonskin relational drawing for freight equipment
     

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