Clinton, MO - Roundhouse & Turntable - Red Devil Coal Loader - MP 86.2 - Clinton Subdivision

Discussion in 'Roundhouses & Turntables' started by railroadguy65, Feb 9, 2009.

  1. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    :) Clinton, Mo Roundhouse - 1896, 1902, & 1928 Sanborn maps
     

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  2. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Does anyone know when the roundhouse was removed?
     
  3. Mike Good's "Railroads of Henry County" website includes a brief history of locomotive facilities in Clinton.

    It indicates that the former KCO&S wooden 6-stall roundhouse was destroyed by a tornado in 1902.

    It was replaced with a 3-stall brick roundhouse which was eventually torn down in 1964.

    http://tacnet.missouri.org/history/railroads/roundhouse.html
     
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  4. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Old photo of the Clinton roundhouse and turntable.

    This is an old one. Maybe from the early part of the 1900's.

    I can't make out any of the numbers or print on the back of the tenders.

    Compliments of Don Kaiser, photographer unknown.

    Dale Rush
    Carthage, MO
     

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  5. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Here are some newer views of the Clinton roundhouse.

    The roundhouse was in a sad state of disrepair by the time these photos were taken.

    Great atmosphere shots for the model railroader.

    Especially the shot of the back of the roundhouse with the maintenance of Way (MOW) vehicles. Sure wish these were color shots.

    Anybody know if the last photo is the piece of equipment shown on the 1950 Property List as a Red Devil Engine Coaler?

    All photos taken by Don Kaiser.

    Dale Rush
    Carthage, MO
     

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  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The last image depicts the skip that hauled ashes/cinders from the ash pit, and loaded them into a gondola.

    The middle rail held the drop bottom door in place.

    When the skip reached the top, the support for the drop bottom would no longer be present, and the drop bottom would open and allow the cinders to fall into the waiting car.

    Some were powered by compressed air.

    Here is a picture of a Red Devil Loader on the Denver and Rio Grand Western narrow gauge at Alamosa, CO.

    http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,98919,98923#msg-98923
     
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  7. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    In picture two, labeled clintonroundhousebackview, there appears to be the top of a tank car dome.

    Did the Frisco bury a tank car to hold Bunker C or diesel fuel?

    It also looks as if a locomotive ran through the wall of the stall on the left.
     
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  8. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Good eye, batter...good eye!

    That's sure what it would appear to be.

    The frame "office" is the one that appears in the 1928 Sanborn map at the top of this thread.

    However, it doesn't show any buried tanks as of that time.

    Wonder if someone has a 1950s era map that may confirm?

    It seems that it would be much easier, and more the norm in Frisco territory, to simply mount the tank on concrete piers.

    Regardless, this would be an interesting and easy detail to model.

    Best Regards,
     
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  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

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  10. wmrx

    wmrx MP Trainmaster

    I worked on what was left of the old Katy between Ft Scott and Clinton in 1990 and 1991.

    Our local would use old Frisco tracks to switch a couple of elevators.

    At that time there was still a concrete pier with a faded Frisco coonskin somewhere in the neighborhood of the old roundhouse.

    Until joining this group, I didn't know just how large the Frisco's presence was in Clinton.
     
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  11. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

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    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

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  13. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    The Larabee Flour Mill would fit the location and the appearance of the structure.
     
  14. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I was thinking it could be Armour & Co.
     
  15. Rancho Bob

    Rancho Bob Member

    The flour mill buildings also match the layout on the online Sanborn maps.

    Even the location of the stack matches.
     
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  16. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I'm back to working on the roundhouse area for my V scale route.

    After studying all the photos and replies in this thread I don't see any evidence of a water tank.

    Would a water tank normally be found around a roundhouse and if so where would the logical place be for it?

    Thanks.
     
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  17. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    The water tank could be beside the ready track in front of the roundhouse.

    There might not be a water tank if the railroad used city water; then there would only a water column.

    Lastly, the water tank could be down by the depot to fill up steam locomotives on passenger trains while stopped at the depot.

    It all depended upon the railroad needs at that location.
     
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  18. Here's a couple of photos of the Clinton Yards, water tank and the sand tower.

    Don Kaiser
    Clinton, MO

    Frisco Yards About 1952 Looking South.JPG Sand Tower Frisco Yards About 1952.JPG
     
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  19. grace65746

    grace65746 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    These are awesome!

    Thanks for sharing them!
     
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  20. wmrx

    wmrx MP Trainmaster

    Thanks for posting these photos, Don.

    When I worked in this area for the UP in the early 1990s, I wondered what was supported by the old concrete foundations that were still present.

    Now I know for sure that it was the water tank as shown in the first photo.

    Has anyone been by this area within the last year or so?

    I'm just curious as to how much has changed over the course of the last 20 years.
     
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