Business Car - General

Discussion in 'Business Cars' started by chris, Jun 27, 2002.

  1. chris

    chris Guest

    Notes on Business Cars

    Some data that I recently posted to the FMIG e-mail list lately from my notes on Business Cars...

    I'm not what I would necessarily consider as being "knowledgeable," but I'll give it a go with the information I've gleaned from past issues of "All
    Aboard" and other odds and ends notes around the workbench.

    [size=+1]Frisco #2500*[/size]
    •Built by Ohio Falls Car Co., 2-1913
    (a) Length: 70'. Weight: Unknown
    (b) Length: 82'. Weight: 210,100 lbs.
    •Renumbered #5 (5-1947)
    •Renumbered #7 (6-1948)
    •Renamed "Kansas" 6-1954
    •Retired 1958; Sold 9-1966.
    (*Rebuilt after wreck in 1944 while on "The Texas Special" No. 2; (a) dimensions prior to accident; (b) dimensions following rebuilding. Converted for limited use as an instruction car until disposition.)​

    [size=+1]QA&P #6666[/size]
    •Date Built/Builder Unknown
    •Steel Composite; Length: 66'. Weight: 163,500 lbs.
    •Leased to SL-SF 1925; Renumbered #1925.
    •Renumbered #8 (5-9-1947)
    •Renumbered #10 (3-24-1948)
    •Returned to QA&P (12-29-1950) for unknown final disposition.​

    [size=+1]Frisco #1400[/size]
    •Wood Coach; Built by Harlan & H. Company (3-1882).
    •Length: 51'. Wt.: 117,400 lbs
    •Renumbered #9 (4-28-1947)
    •Renumbered #12 (3-24-1948)
    •Removed from service (11-1950).
    •Sold (5-1952)​

    [size=+1]Frisco #1924[/size] (Originally built as Buffet-Coach #1702)
    •Built by Pullman Car Co. (4-1912)
    •All-steel. Length: 82'. Wt.: Unknown
    •Renumbered #3 (5-1947)
    •Renumbered #6 (12-1949).
    •Renamed "Oklahoma" (6-1954)
    •Renumbered #4 (1-1963)
    •Renumbered #3 (11-22-1963).
    •Sold (3-1974)​

    [size=+1]Frisco #2200[/size]
    •Built by Ohio Falls Car Co. (11-1884)
    •52' Composite Car. Wt.: 175,500 lbs.
    •Renumbered #7 (5-1947)
    •Renumbered #9 (3-1948)
    •Renamed "Mississippi" (6-1954).
    •Placed in storage @ West Springfield (9-1958)
    •Sold c. early 1960s.​

    [size=+1]Frisco #1100[/size] (Original Owner Unknown; came to SL-SF from the K.C., Ft.Scott and Memphis Rwy. Co.)
    •Built by Barney and Smith Car Co. (3-1883)
    •Composite Coach. Length: 60'. Wt. Unknown(Rebuilt at W. Springfield Coach Shops 1947; new length: 78').
    •Renumbered #4 (1947)
    •Renumbered #8 (2-1948).
    •Renamed "Arkansas" (6-1954).
    •Retired (5-1959)
    •Sold (4-15-1960)​

    From what I've read and written down, there were a lot of other renumberings (from passenger cars rebuilt into business-executive service) that make matters all the more challenging.

    I also know that #2600 was in the same series as the original 4 2000-series executive coaches, but was dismissed from service in 1943 (don't have any other info).

    "Frisco in Color" by Marre and Sommers does show a couple of pictures of what ended its life as #1 (I believe). One is in Pullman Green; the final one in a not-so-becoming O/W scheme. I remember seeing a business car in this scheme in Chaffee in summer, 1980. It was part of "Frisco Days" for Chaffee's 75th Anniversary celebration, and was coupled behind an O/W bay window caboose recently turned out by the CMS, and a road diesel (can't remember what type, though).

    But, I digress. I'll look forward to hearing from anyone else who can add more insight or "plug the holes."
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  2. patrick

    patrick Guest

    Interior shots of another business car

    Some more interior shots of another business car. No car name was given. Frisco file photos from the Western Historical Manuscript Collection.

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