Avard CTC

Discussion in 'Freight Operations' started by Steve40cal, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. Steve40cal

    Steve40cal Member

    Today we put in service the first part of the CTC project for the Avard sub. It starts at the new control point Avery at Cherokee Yard's Restricted Limits and runs to West Mannford. I never would have dreamed I would have seen it in my life time let alone be part of putting it in service. Steve.

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  2. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Is this part of the Federal PTC requirements?
  3. Steve40cal

    Steve40cal Member

    It will be PTC later but this is part of speeding up priority traffic on this line now referred to as a bottle neck. All those years with only a couple of daily freights and a local or two now its a priority line. 70mph running is in the near future also for the areas where it isn't so curvy.
  4. HWB

    HWB FRISCO.org Supporter

    This is going to sound like a really stupid questions seeing as how I claim to model the Avard Sub. How was it controlled before? Track warrants?
  5. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    A long, long overdue addition to this stretch of track. With the doublestack traffic and Eagle Pass trains, it is indeed a busy railroad west of Tulsa these days.
  6. normaneo

    normaneo Member

    Steve, thanks for the picture of the Begin CTC sign and signal. Here's a picture of BNSF 7567 East at WSS Callahan on Christmas Eve. Do you have any idea when this area will be put in service? I grew up when there was just 73, 176, and 791. I'll miss hearing the track warrants, but it's good to see more traffic on the line. Do you know any current train symbols such as S-MEMLAC that travel the Avard subdivision. Thanks and Happy New Year.
    CTC Callahan.JPG
    Norman Olmstead
  7. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    Anything similar in store for the Madill Sub? Those trips can be long south of the Red River in dark territory. ;)
  8. Steve40cal

    Steve40cal Member

    All the CTC from Tulsa to Avard is in service and track work is progressing for 70mph running where possible. Its a funny world some times. Steve.
  9. paul slavens

    paul slavens Member

    Steve, where did the old signal towers go ? I would love to buy a Frisco block signal or something to put with 1249 on its display track.
  10. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The Perry Sub and the Avard Sub were dark except that between Enid and Blanton block signals and indicators were used per Rules 261 - 264. The ATSF had trackage rights over this portion of the Avard Sub.
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  11. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Couple that with the extension of sidings on the Cherokee Sub (West Afton to East Todd, and East Degroat to West Sequoyah), some stretches of the old Frisco are making changes for the better!
  12. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    The new timetable came out today and what a difference! Congratulations on the installation, Steve.
  13. tmfrisco

    tmfrisco Member Frisco.org Supporter

    How much 70 mph do you have on the AV now? I was working in Tulsa when the QLA and QSF began running to Avard instead of Quanah, and we thought that was the best it could be. I always wondered if the track and signals would be improved to allow faster than 49 mph running on this stretch. The Frisco was in danger of loosing this high priority bridge traffic, and by running through Enid instead of OKC, the business was saved. Little did we know that one day this trackage would have higher traffic levels than the Creek Sub which did receive CTC years ago.

  14. DanHyde

    DanHyde Member

    I recently saw the same type of signaling going up on the St.Louis to Springfield stretch. Faster speed there too??
  15. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    Almost 100 miles. From Black Bear to Avard it's 70, but it's still 49 from Black Bear to Tulsa according to the new timetable.
  16. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    Another 23 miles or so of 70 just got added to the Avard Sub. today.
  17. Steve40cal

    Steve40cal Member

    Thanks to the Keystone lake being built part of the old curvy line to the town of Keystone was replaced with some straight track from old highway 51 to West of Mannford. This area will see a speed increase also but the old curvy area between Avery to Fisher will have to be worked on. The little transcon as we call it is a hot line for sure. Next step is double track. :) Nothing surprises me any more. Ship It On The Frisco! Steve.

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