3500's 0-6-0

Discussion in '0-6-0 Switchers' started by train61, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. train61

    train61 Member

    Ok, Im totaly lost on how to kit bash 3500's 0-6-0 switchers. Is there anyone who has done this in the past and can give me some advise?

    Jason Ross
    Bham, AL
     
  2. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Jason, which series?

    The 3539-3548 were rebuilt from Baldwin 1898 ten wheelers. They had a taper in the middle of the boiler and uneven driver spacings. Piston valves must have been added during the conversions, as Stagner has a Volrath photo of 539 as a slide-valve ten wheeler in 1916. The photo caption said the conversion was made in 1923 when she was 25 years old. Photos show both oil and coal tenders. If I were you, I'd follow the prototype and convert one of the Spectrum ten wheelers. Use the 52" driver version.



    The 3550-3552 were 1905 Baldwin's were sold to MoP/NOT&M.
     

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  3. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The March 2010 Model Railroader has a well done article about kit-bashing a steam locomotive. It will at least give you an overview about how one could approach such a project.
     
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  4. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    HO? Spectrum ten wheeler, 52" drivers, remove pilot truck, add a little weight below the cab for balance, repaint, Oddball decals, coonskin number plate on smokebox lid, presto.

    Post photos for our enjoyment.
     
  5. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ah, not so fast grasshopper!!! It just so happens that I am currently working on just such a conversion. I too thought it would be just about that simple, however once I got into it I realized it would be a little more involved. To start with, if your modeling a coal burner, the tender has to have a switcher style bunker constructed and details rearranged. With the locomotive, the cab has to be replaced with a more modern version. I happened to have a couple old tyco's laying around that I grafted together to get the correct length. With the cab in place, there was a gap between the front wall of the cab and the top of the boiler to fill in with styrene. The boiler will need an additional sand dome as well as other details. The cylinders have to be replaced as well, this too came from the scrap box, I think I will try to make do with the existing valve gear even though it's not an exact match. This is about as far as I have got, although I'm not all together certain that I won't have to shorten the front of the frame that the pilot attaches to as it seems to stick out a long way. But I will figure that out as I go.

    Brad
     
  6. nvrr49

    nvrr49 Member

    Brad, Keep us posted, sounds like something I would like to try.

    Kent in KC
    nvrr49.blogspot.com
     
  7. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Frisco prototype modeling.

    Never easy.

    Gotta love it.

    Now where did I put those parts on the MDC 0-6-0 to 3700-series conversion I started years ago? I had the tender done and was working on the cab when I ran out of interest.
     
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  8. train61

    train61 Member

    Ill be working on the mdc/roundhouse 0-6-0's as well later on. I have a lot of work on my hands. 0-6-0's, 2-8-0's, 2-8-2's-4000's -4200's, and that is just what i have now for frisco. seaboard, ic and c of g as well ill be working on. alot of stuff going on in bham in the 40's and 50's. working only on steam for now, diesel will come in time. Me with no skills or know how as of yet.......a work in progress. thanks guys for the input....feel free to check on me....ill be posting the loco's and layout as the project come together. one of these decades.

    jason ross
    bham, al
    bham belt rr
     
  9. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Any updates to this? I'm interested in seeing....
     
  10. train61

    train61 Member

    Nothing to report as of yet. Been looking at 2-6-0's, but the boiler is all wrong. I just need to learn how to kit bash.
    Jason Ross
    Bham, AL
    BBRR
     
  11. train61

    train61 Member

    I have 5 Pemco 2-6-0's in house now. Plus got the 4-4-0 boilers to put on them. I have 2 aristocraft 4-6-0's in as well. Well the Bham Belt will be in the building stage for a while. More updates to follow. That's all for now from the Bham-Memphis line in Adamsville AL.
     
  12. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    patiently await the updates. I'm presently converting MDC 2-6-0's with Mantua 50" drivers and the Cary 4-4-0 Boiler. Oh how I know the kit-bashing blues! (Not really blue though. Only word that would fit. LOL...)
     
  13. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Don's recent post about the 4-6-0 has kind of got me going again on the little 3500, so here is the update. I painted it the tender this evening, but before I did I grabbed a few shots. As a brief description of the work, the flared curb around the perimeter of the tank was removed and sanded smooth. A new coal bunker was fabricated from styrene with wooden batter boards made from styrene placed on top. New details were added on the rear of the tender and the ladder was moved from center to offset on the firemans side. I have started doing some work on the engine, but it will be a while before it's ready for paint.

    Brad Slone
     

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  14. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Looking really good, Brad. Can't wait to see the finished product!
    And, be sure to include some 'as you go photo's' of the locomotive work.
     
  15. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    For those interested, here is my latest photo's of the 3500 class switcher prior to painting. Fitting the new cab and the new cylinders & steam chest was the biggest challenges.

    Brad
     

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  16. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Man, you sure did a clean job on that cab modification. My hat's off to you. I can't wait to see her painted. Very impressive work.
     
  17. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Brad - Nice work, your 3500 is going to be sweet. Glad to see you are doing a Frisco 0-6-0, not many have done those.

    Ken
     
  18. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    Brad,
    Why not write an artilce about this conversion for The Meteor? This is the kind of artilce it needs.
     
  19. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Splendid, Brad - thanks for sharing.

    On the fireman's side, what did you use for the step? It looks like a small piece of Plastruct u-channel?

    Best Regards,
     
  20. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Chris,

    Yes that was a piece of styrene channel, it seemed like the simplest approach. Attached are a few of the finished product for those interested.

    Brad
     

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