2-6-0 Mogul Roster

Discussion in '2-6-0 Moguls' started by Karl, Apr 4, 2016.

  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Recently the Frisco Archive posted an image of 2-6-0 SLSF 351 in the dead line at Chaffee, MO. Terry Jankowski remarked in the comments the following. “..In researching this type in Collias’ Frisco Power, I found that the Mogul class had the least(sic) photographs (3) and text (1 page) of all the engines in his book which makes this picture a great addition to the Frisco Archives…”

    Terry has a very good point. At one time I had started a brief article to mark this group of Frisco steam locomotives. Unfortunately, I placed the work aside, and did not finish it. It is a shame that these locomotives have been given short shrift in the hobby media, but it is easy to empathize with the authors.

    The Frisco cumulative roster of 2-6-0s totaled 84 locomotives. However, many of the Moguls were retired by the mid-teens, so it is easy to see why there is a paucity of photographs. Most of the survivors from the mid-teens “mass extinction” were in the deadlines by the 1930s. The last of the Moguls came from the Jonesboro, Lake City and Eastern, and these disappeared from the roster during 1945.

    I have produced a histogram, which details the service career of each Mogul. When a retirement date was unavailable, I used ETT’s to approximate a retirement date. These are marked with question marks in the bar. The histogram shows that for the most part, the Moguls were long-lived, and they served for 20-30 years. In a few cases they served 35 years. The Frisco certainly received full economic worth from this group of engines.

    It is interesting to note that Memphis Road eschewed Moguls, so the roster was filled with Frisco engines and locomotives from other acquisitions. It should also be noted that the histogram uses the build date for the locomotive, and not the acquisition date.
    MOGUL_ROSTER_ACTIVE_DATES_decimated.jpg http://frisco.org/mainline/2016/03/26/2-6-2-351/#comment-1636
     
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  2. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Karl, the depth and breadth of your knowledge and resources never cease to amaze and please.

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Thanks for this post, Karl.

    I love the early years of the Frisco, especially during the construction years of the Central Division from Monett, MO to Hugo, OK, in the mountains of Arkansas and Oklahoma in particular.

    Here is a picture of the second order, SLSF 307 - SLSF 316, of Moguls that was photographed at Talihina, Indian Territory (I.T.), later to become Oklahoma.

    This would have been sometime in 1887 or so, during the construction of the south line from Fort Smith, AR, to Paris, TX.

    Love this picture!

    SLSF_Talihina_ca_1887-88.jpg
     
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  4. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Andre, what a great picture.
     
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  5. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I want decals for that boxcar!!
     
  6. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I seem to remember having published an issue of the FMIG Newsletter that featured Moguls.

    I was unable to find any matching models back then, but that has changed.

    Thanks Karl.
     
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  7. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Wow, Karl.

    For those of us who are more visually inclined, this is very good to have.

    This very graphically displays the "mini-purge" of Moguls 1906-1910, and a great purge circa 1915. It is almost like looking at fossil records where a fossil of a particular critter suddenly and precipitously disappears.

    Not quickly enough, though, to prevent Chaffee, MO from utilizing them as their yearbook name for upwards of a century, as Tim Cannon has noted.

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/chaffee-high-school-yearbook-the-mogul.14/#post-94

    Doug,

    You are correct, sir. Frisco Modelers Information Group (FMIG) Newsletter #21, which includes:
    • Roster Data (pp. 23-26)
    • Various Photographs (pp. 26-27)
    • Excerpts from the 1912 Frisco locomotive diagram book provided by Ed Heiss (pp. 27-30)
    • Information on HO-Scale models available (pp. 30-31).
    Best Regards,
     
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  8. Danny Maxwell

    Danny Maxwell Member

    Hello Frisco Friends,

    I am looking to convert an LGB Colorado and Southern (C&S) 2-6-0 into a Frisco Mogul.

    I was thinking either Mogal 2-6-0 SLSF 9, 73, or 345-351.

    Any suggests on good fit from the roster?

    What details should I add to be more like prototype Frisco locomotives?

    Are there and digital copies of Frisco Modelers Information Group (FMIG) Newsletter #21 available on line?

    Dan
     
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  9. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Dan,

    Frisco.org has a wealth of information available to you.

    You can find the information you seek concerning the Frisco Modelers Information Group (FMIG) newsletters in several ways.

    Use the search function in the upper right corner of the page. Then link on the thread you desire.

    Or you can go to the Forums tab, page down to the yellow bar highlighting the section The Interchange, go the FMIG & All Aboard Newsletters file, go to the FMIG Newsletters Index thread or further down the FMIG Newsletters thread.

    Or you can also go to the yellow Historical section, Motive Power topic, Steam Locomotives, 2-6-0 Mogals section and view the various threads.

    Or you can also go to the yellow Modeling The Frisco section, select the scale you desire, select the topic or view the various threads you desire.

    Just like using your school, college or local public library the information is indexed for easy access. No enrollment, tuition, library card registration or taxes required. And it is available for free!

    If you have a question, post it and more than likely folks are willing to share information they have on the topic.

    As you get into your project, start your own thread, post your progress, document the results and share with other folks.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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