Springfield, MO, Lebanon, Springfield Subs, MP 239.1, Ash Grove, Willow Springs Subs, MP 202.1

Discussion in 'Depots Q-Z' started by RICHCRAB, Nov 1, 2005.

  1. RICHCRAB

    RICHCRAB Guest

    Hi Frisco Folks!

    Here are the photos that I have came across for Springfield, MO.

    Take care,

    Rich

    Ship it on the Frisco!
     

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  2. Some more photographs of the Springfield MO depot.

    FM
     

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  3. Postcards of Frisco depot in Springfield, MO.

    FM
     

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  4. Frisco Depot in Springfield Mo

    From the air on the 1940. Before the fall in 1976. And now she is gone in 2006.

    Recent shots taken from Main and Mill St. in Springfield 5/2006. Just under the viaduct is a remote control railyard.

    This would be great site to build a Frisco Railroad Museum with all of the rebirth of downtown Square and Commercial Street.

    Also there is great write on this location with maps, which I used to find this location in Trains Magazine, December 2003, called "Frisco when it was fabulous."

    http://www.trains.com/content/dynamic/articles/000/000/004/640vrhew.asp

    You should still be able to order a back issue.

    FM
     

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  5. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    The original Springfield, MO depot was at North Benton Avenue just as you cross over E. Commercial St. See attached 1896 Sanborn Map. :)

    There are a few photos still floating around of this depot, but they are hard to come by since the the newer station was built in 1882 on North Main Street. The 1882 station has many postcards, see attached, and photographs floating around, and it is the one that most think is the original depot.

    Today, the only thing left are the tracks, and the footbridge in the background. I shot two photos, one looking north where the station once was. And one looking Northeast towards the footbridge.

    Incidentally Herzog No. 176 was in town doing track maintenance.

    http://www.herzogcompanies.com/index.php
     

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  6. I believe a closer study will show the Frisco freight house roof on the left side of the postcard.

    That will make this depot located on North Main Street near Jordan Creek on the approximate site of the later Frisco depot.

    Also, the postcard more closely follows the footprint of the Sanborn map published on another thread.
     
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  7. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    Yes, I saw that too. :) :D

    I will be starting a new post explaining the history and photographs of the 1882 and the 1926 passenger stations on North Main Street.

    RRG65
     
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  8. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    As the story goes, in and around 1882 the old Victorian Station (org. K.C.S.M R.R.) was built.

    See attached post card & old photo from Springfield-Green County Library

    http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/depots/images/photos/p01309.jpg

    And the 1884 Sanborn map (K.C.S.&M) , 1886 Sanborn Map (K.C.S.&M), 1891 Sanborn Map (K.C.F.S.&M), 1902 Sanborn Map (K.C.F.S.&M), and finally 1910 Sanborn Map (St. L. & S.F)

    By the time 1910 Sanborn map was published, the old (St. L. & S. F.) station on North Benton was no longer there.

     

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  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

  10. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    Hi Karl

    I just posted a reply to your original post regarding that subject.

    I will further elaborate, but it is purely a guess. As Springfield grew further south and with the town becoming one as well as the railroads, I am guessing it was a transition station to shift their operations south.

    I know from historical writings there was some animosity towards St. L. & S.F. for not having a station closer to the town square. So just maybe this was a their answer for awhile. Again I am just guessing on this one. Maybe the answer is buried in the old Frisco Magazines that Springfield-Greene County has on line.


    When I get a chance, I will have to flip threw a few and see.

    Take care,
    RRG65
     
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  11. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    The last passenger station that St. L. & S.F. built was in December of 1926.

    See link to Springfield-Greene County Public Library.

    http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/depots/fem_1927_03_springfield_depot.pdf

    I have included the 1933/55 Sanborn map showing the location of the depot and the tracks leading to the South Side Shops. There are many photographs and postcards of this depot on this website as well as others. I will include a postcard and some links to one on the before mention Springfield-Greens County Public Library site.

    I want to do a little then and now post. As many of you know in 1977 the station was torn down. Today a pole barn warehouse stands in its place. I have tried to emulate were some of the shots were taken.

    Aerial view of Frisco depot in 1940.

    http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/depots/images/photos/p01312.jpg

    View 1 is looking Southwest from North Main Street. SW towards where the depot sat. I have included an old photo from the Springfield History Museum and postcard for reference.

    View 2 is looking Southeast from under the Grant Avenue Viaduct towards North Main Street. I have included an old photo from the Springfield History Museum.

    View 3 is looking East from under the Grant Avenue Viaduct towards North Main Street. I have included an old photo from the Springfield History Museum.
     

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  12. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    View 4 is looking West from the tracks. I have attached a photo from the Springfield History Museum. :)

    View 5 is looking West from the Grant Avenue Viaduct. I have attached a photo from the Springfield History Museum for some perspective.

    In the older photograph you can see part of the South Side Shops on your left. And the passenger platforms dead ahead looking West. The crumbling concrete and tracks are all that remain.
     

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  13. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Springfield, Mo Thrid Station

    I have many fond memories of this station.

    I got my first cab ride here on one of the Baldwin switch engines, which worked the south side yard. I remember several early morning or middle of the night trips to the depot, where my dad would hand the RPO clerk a letter.

    It was also the beginning and end to many trips on No 107 and N0 108.
     

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  14. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    Re: Springfield, MO Third Station

    Another great find Karl!

    You must have one pack room full of goodies!

    Keep the coming.

    Paul
     
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  15. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Re: Springfield, Mo Thrid Station

    Please see the following links for trackside view of the Springfield, MO depot.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/manair/3318490955/sizes/o/

    Note the coonskin shaped direction sign on the front of the depot above the northern most baggage carts. The automobiles north of the depot help date the photo to the late 1920s or 1930s.

    The depot's agent / operator bay faced north. Railroad west is down the track away from the photographer. The two engines are facing east.

    This depot is the third at this station and was constructed in 1926. The depot was abandoned in the 1967 with the end of passenger service. Unfortunately the station was demolished in 1976.

    The depot address was 499 North Main Street.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
  16. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    The depot address was actually 351 N. Main Street, the Frisco freight house was 333 N. Main Street and the Missouri Pacific freight house 301 N. Main Street.

    Also, I've been told that the frame "depot" building across from the depot, visible in the photograph, was the station for one of the (which?) predecessor roads of the "Highline."

    In my railfanning days down there, it was used as a laundry for, I'm guessing, dining car linen, uniforms, towels etc.

    Tom
     
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  17. Ozarktraveler

    Ozarktraveler Member

    Re: Springfield,Mo Station

    While searching threads to see what I could find about the building resembling a Victorian style depot in Springfield, MO. on the south side of Division Street, between Glenstone and Hwy 65, I ran across this thread. The Green Co. postcard linked in this thread, resembles the building mentioned.

    Is this one and the same?

    I pass it frequently on trips to visit my kids/grandkids in Springfield and have wondered about it's origin for awhile.

    Thanks,
    Craig
     
  18. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Springfield,Mo Station

    No. This station sat on Main street in downtown. It was later remodled into a Spanish style structure, complete with tile roof.

    Unfortunately, the depot was torn down in the 1970s.

    Paul
     
  19. Ozarktraveler

    Ozarktraveler Member

    Hmmm. I'm still curious then, as to the origin of the depot-looking bldg on Division St. and whether it ever actually was a depot. It's a couple of blocks south of the former Frisco main, somewhat close to the Memphis turn, if I have my bearings correct. (Near the little airport.)
     
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  20. diesel shop

    diesel shop Member

    It was the airport terminal.
     

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