GP7 SLSF 517

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  1. rogerrt477

    rogerrt477 Guest

    GP7 SLSF 517

    GP7 SLSF 517

    Thayer, MO.

    11/2/1978

    SLSF 517 (03) Thayer, MO. 11-2-78 RR Taylor Photo.jpg
     
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  2. Frisco2008

    Frisco2008 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    GP7 SLSF 517

    Note the company diesel sand service hopper car parked near the bulk sand unloading elevator leg, storage tank or tower.

    Locomotive is coupled to GP7 SLSF 513.

    Tulsa, OK

    SLSF GP-7 517 CY Tulsa, OK.jpg

    Edit 2/27/2024: Added photograph narrative and location.
    MKD
     
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  3. fredman23

    fredman23 Member

    Two GP7s SLSF 517 and SLSF 520 at the East Yard service track in Oklahoma City, OK in the late 1970s.

    Geeps.jpg
     
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  4. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    The GP7 SLSF 517 is the unit that I have my Grandpa pictured in.

    But in an earlier black and yellow paint.

    This shows it in service many years after he retired.

    Always good to see any Frisco picture that has been in a drawer or otherwise not seen.

    Thanks for posting!
     
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  5. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Look at those Leslies up on top of GP7 SLSF 517 and SLSF 520.

    Good old Frisco, they even wanted the GP7s to sound good!

    Ken
     
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  6. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Yes sir Ken,

    They are standing tall and proud are they not?

    How do we model those washtub spark arrestors?

    O or S scale round Details West parts I am pondering?

    hhhmmm
     
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  7. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Not sure of the details on those, but looks as if three sections of tubing placed inside each other might work?
     
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  8. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I have no idea what in the world those are, let alone how to model them!

    Ken
     
  9. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Are they spark arrestors?

    Or are they roof vents from a building behind the GP7s?
     
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  10. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Agree!

    I am thinking they are domes on the tank/tanks behind the Mandarin orange and white GP7 SLSF 520, or something on the building.

    I have never seen anything that looks like that as a spark arrestor on top of a Frisco GP7, or any other GP unit.

    It does look like one of the little "canopy" spark deflectors they used is mounted on the rear exhaust of GP7 SLSF 520.

    You can see the edge of the front one as well before it gets lost in the background noise.

    Ken
     
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  11. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

  12. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom,

    Maybe! But, the "things" on SLSF 520 look round to me.

    These in your posted pictures are square. Probably home made by the SLSF.

    The ones on SLSF 510 could be the same.

    They look to be rounded and have the connection to the exhaust stacks like on SLSF 520.

    What does the group think?

    Love that top-side view!

    Ken
     
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  13. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Pretty sure that I have seen the round ones on some other railroad locomotives.

    May have been Milwaukee, Burlington, MKT, or GN.

    Not much help at the moment, sorry.
     
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  14. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Found a couple of photographs that may help?

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  15. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    As more roads dieselized, and as the early diesels aged a bit and started throwing more sparks the rate of line-side fires became more of a problem.

    I remember in the late summer in Rolla while I was at MSM, 1960, 1961, etc., I recall the Frisco being accused of setting fires in the local paper. I am sure this was occurring across the country as well. I would bet the Frisco's first thought was to design a spark catching device for their diesel exhausts, mainly on the EMDs as this was mainly a two-cycle problem.

    That may be what we see on GP7s SLSF 510 and SLSF 520. The four-cycle road engines were turbocharged, which was in itself a good spark eliminator. At the same time, the market realized an opportunity, and commercially designed spark arrestor devices became available.

    Eventually, the Frisco settled on the familiar screen-lifting type they used on all non-turbo engines, including on some Baldwin VO-1000s and EMD NW2s & SW7s. Some of the FMs had a big spark screen in them.

    I am not sure if any gadgets made it on top of an Alco S-2 or S-4.

    Ken
     
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  16. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Those big square ones do not look quite as gargantuan as those round ones.

    They both look out of place to me.

    But that is my opinion.
     
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  17. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom,

    If your planning on modeling these, here are a few more pictures.
     

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  18. fredman23

    fredman23 Member

    Do not know if this helps the discussion or not.

    Sorry I could not get any closer.

    Geep sparks.jpg
     
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  19. Matt Fisher

    Matt Fisher Member

    Has anyone ever modeled those spark arrestors?

    If so, pictures?
     
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  20. I added my pictures to your other thread.
     
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