Hello Y'all, Attached is the 1912 and 1917 ORER for the Quanah, Acme, & Pacific. As I find more, I'll post them up and alter the title. You can see how the little railroad grew between years. If I find more, I'll post them.
Re: 1912 QA&P ORER Great info, thanks! A later issue, that included the Sunshine QA&P box, QAP 500-524, would also be neat. Ken
After talking with Manny, He and I decided it would be best served to post these QA&P pics here, as opposed to starting another thread. I did these cars a few years ago, based on photos I have seen and on pages 132, 149 (left edge), of Hofsommer's Quanah Route. These are Accurail kits. I know very little about this era of rolling stock and could use some help and advise on more accurate models. Working on another boxcar right now that has different markings. Thanks for looking,
Tom, I have photographs of 1910 +/- QA&P Box Cars. They are 36' cars. I've also seen photos of 1930's QA&P Box Cars. That's it. I'm working to find other QA&P cars as these will be an integral part of my business venture. I can say that your car is pretty accurate in marking placement, however, your font is incorrect on the basic print. No offense meant. It's a Serif type font, not block.
No offense taken Manny, I dont have a good photo of that car to look at. I am looking at the Hofsommer book right now and it looks pretty close to me, but I dont understand what Serif or Block font is. The other car I am working on now had a RR Roman type font on it. I think these cars were all a bit different in some respects. I would like to get this Serif font maybe make things a bit easier for me.
FYI, a Serif font is one that has the little radius/and or tip on both sides of the foot or head of the letter. Book Antiqua, Palatino Linotype, Courier,Times New Roman are all examples of serif fonts.
No, Tom's choice of lettering is not necessarily incorrect. Late in their QAP life, after the SLSF took control of the QA&P, QAP freight cars, including their box cars, were lettered in the Frisco lettering format after shopping, which usually was a sans-serif font. I have the Sunshine Kit 59.8, the QA&P signature boxcar, 500-524 series. It is specifically identified as being in the "Frisco lettering format". The photos, and decals Martin included in the kit, are all sans-serif. (ie, no serif). In fact, the photos of the kit as built show lettering that looks very much like Tom's Accurail cars. Nothing wrong with Tom's lettering font! Ken ps - There is a pic of a neat QAP tank car in Martin's data sheet for the 59.8 kit. It does indeed have a font with serifs. So, pre-Frisco, QAP did use a serif'ed (if that is a word!) font, while the QAP boxcar it is coupled to is sans-serif..
re the QAP equipment ORER's: Interesting. The QA&P Vice President on both of these sheets, 1912 & 1917, was identified as Charles H. Sommer. Mr. Sommer's son, Charles H. Sommer, Jr., was the President of Monsanto Company when I joined Monsanto as a chemical engineer out of MSM in 1964. Small world. Ken
|-||-|Wow! A small world indeed. What a great story Ken. That's cool. Had a Division Manager here when it was the COL division that made his first pay trip on the QA&P and my Grandpa was his Hoghead!! Yep a small world and getting smaller every day. Which is more than I can say for myself Thanks Ken, it's those kinds of stories that make this site so special. Always glad to hear from you. Thanks my friend.|-||-|
I met Mr Sommer(Jr) several times. He was a nice guy - one of those executives that took the time to come around to everybody's office at the StL HQ every Christmas and shake hands. K
In looking all this over again Manny is referring to 1910+-.... The boxcar I attempted was 20-30 years after. So we all are right. IMHO
