2-10-0 SLSF 1632 - Eagle Picher John G. Hollembeak sent in this photograph of 2-10-0 SLSF 1632 - Eagle Picher.
Hello Frisco Folks, Here are some photographs of Frisco 2-10-0 Decapod Engines SLSF 1614, 1616, 1625, 1626 and 1632 Enjoy, Rich Ship it on the Frisco!
Hi Rich, I would like to construct a decapod with the air pump up front on the pilot. But have seen no photographs of the bracket behind the pump. Can you help? Base model to be used Pacific Fast Mail (PFM) brass Frisco Russian. Art
Several of the Bolsheviks carried air compressors mounted on the pilot beam. While in the Kansas City area several weeks ago, I made a side trip to Belton, MO and took these shots of the 2-10-0 SLSF 1632.
1632 Arrives in Belton After sitting for years in Ottawa, KS the 2-10-0 SLSF 1632 arrives in Belton, Missouri. The locomotive and tender were delivered on two DODX flatcars. Check out this on YouTube video.
Great photograph. Can anyone tell me what other equipment was used on the High Line around Clinton? I am modeling the era from 1930s to 1960s. Dan
Comrades - 8^) See Karl's post regarding these Russians at the following link. http://www.frisco.org/vb/showpost.php?p=12472&postcount=4 Again, the order of the Frisco steam power locomotive universe seems to be randomness. Those 2-10-0 Russians with the air compressors mounted on the pilot deck include the following. 1619 (Richmond, 1917-18) 1623 (Richmond, 1917-18)* 1624 (Brooks, 1918) 1627 (BLW, 1918) 1630 (BLW, 1918) 1632 (BLW, 1918) * SLSF 1623 is an enigma. See the photograph of QA&P 1623 at Quanah. No air compressor on the fireman's side so I can presume it is on the pilot deck. http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=1285&d=1129770677 However, lettered for the SL-SF, it shows a side-mounted air compressor. http://198.209.8.207/lochist/frisco/friscoline/images/photos/p01419.jpg My guess initially was that it was builder's preference, but that does not seem to explain why some Richmond-built locomotives do and some do not. It does not seem to jive, either, with previous ownership as indicated in Frisco Power. As a side bar, Art Marsh has a photograph of SLSF 1617 from either 1938 or 1939 lettered as FRISCO; Frisco Power shows the same locomotive circa 1950 with QA&P lettering on the cab. http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=1284&d=1129770610 Go figure. If I were not an "Extraverted, Intuitive, Feeling, and Perceiving" (ENFP) temperament according to Kiersey, the inconsistency in the steam locomotive feel would likely drive me to model strings of cab units all day long. 8^)
Perhaps I have an answer to the enigma that you have posed Chris. In the book Frisco Southwest by John McCall and Frank A. Schultz, III is a picture of Russian Decapod SLSF 1624 with this caption: "At least two of the 1600s (1624 and 1613) received larger air pumps, mounted on the pilot beam around 1946." Since this was a retrofit, it would account for the lack of correlation between builders or previous owners and why, in photographs, the same engine would appear both with and without pilot mounted air pumps. The book contains the same picture of QA&P 1623 coming off the turntable at Quanah, TX. On the opposite page QA&P 1623 is shown on the turntable, apparently a few minutes earlier or later, displaying its front mounted air compressor. By the way, what are those black tubes in the foreground? On page 88 Frisco 1622 is pictured in Vernon, TX in June, 1949 with a pilot mounted air pump. While on page 109 the same engine is shown without it at Enid, OK on June 26, 1938.
Re: 1632 Arrives in Belton Karl, Yeah, I remember this event real well Karl. At that time I was a member of the now-defunct Smoky Hill Railroad. I also remember that Grandview, MO had to cut off the power until they delivered it. They disconnected any overhead power lines that crossed over the track to keep the smoke stack from catching them and ripping them down. They had to do the same in Belton, MO as well.
Use the search function to look for "Clinton" or "High Line". Also look for "field notes" to find Karl's father's track diagrams. Glenn in Tulsa
Re: 1632 Arrives in Belton They used a ramp to remove the locomotive from the flat car. They broke several springs during the process.
Because I was born in Ottawa, Kansas and as a child, I got to play on her many many times, I was sad that they moved her. The story I got was that Mr. Ledom who was part of the historical society that runs the museum did not feel it was right to have a steamer there that was not a Santa Fe steamer. They wanted a piece of equipment that was of Santa Fe origin. So the Santa Fe Railroad gave them a caboose only to have the local kids from there catch it on fire. The Ottawa depot just is not the same without the 2-10-0 SLSF 1632 sitting there behind her. I was in the Army at the time that they moved the SLSF 1632 and was just shocked when I came home and found her gone. My Grandfather, Boyd Whitcher, was a clerk at the Ottawa Depot until they closed the depot. When my grandfather left, he acquired the Santa Fe clock that was hanging inside his office. That very clock now hangs over my lay-out. Someday I am hoping to find a picture of the depot with SLSF 1632 sitting there to also hang beside the clock. My Uncle Carl Reekie also worked at the Ottawa depot as part of a section gang for the Santa Fe. Someday I will share the stories that my grandfather and my uncle shared with me about their working out of the Ottawa depot.
My Pacific Fast Mail (PFM) brass Bolshevik has been in the back shop for too long. I grabbed some detail shots at Belton, MO and hope to make the PFM version look more like the 2-10-0 SLSF 1632, which was a denizen of the Clinton Subdivision.
Karl and Sherrel, I appreciate the good, detailed close-ups. They are very helpful for those of us who like the steam power but are still at a "dunce" apprenticeship level for knowing and understanding the whole machine. Best Regards,
2-10-0 SLSF 1632 I do not know that I would refer to Smoky Hill as "Defunct". We are still up and running in Belton, operating over old Highline trackage every weekend in the summer. We are hoping to get a project started to work on more cosmetic restoration of the 2-10-0 SLSF 1632. We also still have the USAX flatcar that SLSF 1632 came in on. We redecked it and use it as an open air excursion car. Patrick www.beltonrailroad.org Belton, Grandview, & Kansas City Railroad Co. Route of the Frisco
