Frisco 42' Fishbelly Flat Car

Discussion in 'Freight Equipment' started by friscomike, Jul 24, 2009.

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What form of a Frisco 42' Flat car would you purchase?

  1. Ready To Run

    11 vote(s)
    23.4%
  2. Unbuilt Kit

    15 vote(s)
    31.9%
  3. Both

    21 vote(s)
    44.7%
  1. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    How many of thease will they be making? A lot or a Little? I mights get one. And I checked the intermountain web site and they don't appear.
     
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  2. friscomike

    friscomike Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Howdy folks,

    Indeed, the deck is tan, a wood color. It will be easy to weather with gray, too. I'm going to try one with mineral spirits and gray oils, one with gray acrylics, and one with alcohol/India ink plus chalk. I'll post the results here. Of course, we'll have the wood decks available for purchase, too.

    The cars will only be available from the Texas Western Model Railroad Club.
    The quantities are limited. and here are the number of items we expect to receive and a tentative price:

    RTR: 260 ~$29
    Kit: 40 ~ $20
    Wooden Decks: 50

    These prices are estimates based on IRC/Red Caboose regular pricing.

    Hope this helps,
    mike
     
  3. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

  4. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Mike - When do you suggest we start placing orders with you?

    Ken
     
  5. friscomike

    friscomike Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Will do. ~mike
     
  6. friscomike

    friscomike Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Howdy Ken,

    I'll make sure FRISCo_Org folks have first shot at the kits before we put them up for general sale. We'll be getting them in two batches. Because of a delay in the graphics, we did not get them in November as originally promised. We getting an order air shipped to us for the Plano show, and I'll give Frisco folks dibs on the first batch. I don't know if it will come RTR or RTR and kit.

    I'll post an announcement on the forum when folks can order. How does that work?

    Best,
    mike
     
  7. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Mike - Fine. Let us know the details and orders will follow.

    Ken
     
  8. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    There has been some coverage lately (most notably the new scenery article starting in the Nov. 2009 issue of RMC about the use of the relatively new Floquil Paint Markers. Notable scenery expert Paul Scoles uses these to weather track.
    For those or you not familiar with them, they are the same thing as the Minwax Touch-Up pens carriend in Home Improvement stores such as Lowe's. I have used them extensively for touching up scratches in my woodwork and on picture frames. Basically they are a metal cannister with a wick and a small ball of sorts inside to aid in shaking up the paint. One just pushes down on the wick to release the paint or stain.
    Floquil offers them in sets of three being Track Colors (Rail Brown, Railroad Tie Brown, and Rust), Structure Colors (Aged Concrete, Weathered Black, and Roof Brown), and Earth Tones (Earth, Mud, and Grime).
    I would think these would be perfect to use to age and weather the deck of these cars. Paul actually uses these in combination with the Minwax stains on his track.
     
  9. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Can Ken, Mike, or anyone else familiar with these cars explain how the wooden deck works? Does it mount on top of the plastic one or in place of it? If the latter applies, wouldn't that make it worthless for use with the RTR version?
     
  10. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Sure. The wooden decks (mine are AMB LaserKits) are sized specifically for the Red Caboose flat car. They are very thin and sit on top of the existing RC deck. It works OK unless you look at the car side very closely - then you can see the red ends of the RC deck below the wood. I didn't bother to try to fix that.

    But - a question in my mind is that the yellow color represents a repaint, as these cars were, I think, red when new. Given that, was the deck not painted yellow at the same time? As has been discussed here, many of the pics of these cars in yellow show the deck to be what looks like yellow as well. What does everybody think? Do we want the wood deck on these yellow cars? :confused:

    The AMB LaserKit deck is not cheap - $5.95 per when I bought them about five years or so ago.

    Ken
     
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  11. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    That's why I like having a freelanced branch, so it don't matter which one I chose. LOL

    And BTW Rick I like your new profile picture. :cool:
     
  12. friscomike

    friscomike Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Howdy Bob,

    I don't think the kits area easy to remove since they are cast on. I'll recheck one of my red kits to see. Most folks I know have ground them off with course sandpaper, then glued the decks on. It shouldn't be that hard.

    Best,
    mike
     
  13. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The Red Caboose flat car deck is cast on, except for a short center section which is less than 1-inch long.

    Ken
     
  14. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Does anyone know why this short center section of the deck is not cast? Is it due to the casting release. To me this ruins the look of the model. Just my opinion.
    Bob Wintle
     
  15. friscomike

    friscomike Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Frisco 42' Fishbelly Flat Car - Pilot Model arrived...nice

    Howdy,

    Fedex just delivered the pilot 42' flat car. It really looks nice. I'll post photos in the morning.

    Have fun,
    mike
     
  16. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    A revision .....

    I was dead wrong in my comment above from my earlier posting - I just finished looking through the various pics I could find of the yellow 42ft flat car in service, and none of them show any evidence of paint on the wood decks. The decks all look like beat up, well used and weathered ..... unpainted wood.

    Ken
     
  17. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Mike:

    Do you have any date confirmed as to when the cars will arrive? It's December 29th and I'm still feeling like a little kid at Christmas!
     
  18. friscomike

    friscomike Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Frisco 42' Fishbelly Flat Car - Finished Models

    Howdy folks,

    Last weekend, I spotted these cars at the Texas Western's Alamosa yard. How they got up there, I'll never know (tsk, tsk). These cars have the wooden deck applied.

    The cars are selling briskly, which is good for the club. You can still pick one up at http://shop.twmrc.org/. Still no word from Intermountain about the arrival of the kits (must be on a slow boat from China).

    Car 95523 was the first car that received the wooden deck. I, uh, got better at applying them by the fourth car. The deck weathering technique on each car was different. I wanted to experiment a bit. Hope you enjoy the photos,
    mike
     

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  19. Frisco2008

    Frisco2008 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I believe that the Americana (Deco Art) brand of acrylic paint color "Sand" is a close match to the factory painted deck on these cars. This may be helpful when the kits come in.

    Glenn, in Tulsa
     
  20. FRISCO4503

    FRISCO4503 FRISCO4503 Frisco.org Supporter

    Awesome job on these cars! I can't wait till I am able to order mine!
     

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