Kansas City-Florida Special

**Joseph Toth** · 08-31-2011

I would appreciate any known information on the Frisco´s Kansas City-Florida Special.

There is the excellent TRRA publication #69 on the Texas Special but I know of nothing of the Florida trains except the info that has been posted regarding the Sunnyland.

Thanks,

Joe Toth

**TAG1014** · 08-31-2011

The Kansas City-Florida Special ran from Kansas City to Birmingham with sleeping and chair cars carried by other RR's (SR, ACL, FEC) to Florida. It was dieselized in 1950. It was a heavy mail and express hauler from the Southern states for California and the West through Kansas City connections. The consist around 1960 through Springfield (Usually eleven cars) was four to six heavyweight "baggage" cars with storage mail and express; a 30' RPO-baggage, two chair cars, a HW diner-lounge, and three sleeping cars. An all silver SR chair car was in the "pool" and "foreign" line express cars were frequently seen in the train (ACL, SAL, SCL, N & W, SR, C of Ga., IC). A full 60' RPO ran from Memphis to Birmingham.

Tom

**Rancho Bob** · 08-31-2011

Frisco #105 & 106. KC-Memphis-Birmingham-Jessup-Jacksonville (via ACL)-Miami (through car via FEC). Birmingham-Jessup via Southern. Of course the route was cut back and cut back and even included some strange consists (see "Oh, Mr. Pullman" article by David P. Morgan which appeared in Trains magazine in the 60's, AND, for a short time Pulllman assigned UP equipment KC to Birmingham. One "Cliff Notes" reference is Lyle Key's "Midwest Florida Sunliners". Also , Mike Condren's site contains all sorts of interesting KCFS stuff. I have an interesting chart of car assignments I made up for an article on the KCFS I wrote years ago for the Southern Ry. Historical Association that was never published. Will post as soon as I can dig it up.

Buck
(Rancho Bob)

** I want to say for a time that the KCFS was routed to JAX, in early heavyweight days, via the Georgia Southern & Florida from Atlanta to JAX. Need to dig out my research material.

**Joseph Toth** · 09-01-2011

What a neat train to model in any scale!

Your artical Buck, belongs in The Meteor!!!

Like TRRA´s #69 on the Texas Special, it has been a long time coming.

Thanks to all, so far, for the info on the KCFS!

Joe Toth