Saint Louis - San Francisco Railway Historical and Modeling Society Forums http://www.frisco.org/vb/ Saint Louis - San Francisco Railway Historical Society and Modeler resource site en Thu, 17 May 2012 11:41:10 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.frisco.org/vb/images/styles/vb3/misc/rss.png Saint Louis - San Francisco Railway Historical and Modeling Society Forums http://www.frisco.org/vb/ Tsunami horn selection http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6205-Tsunami-horn-selection&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 20:46:20 GMT Today in the mail I received a locomotive that has a tsunami sound decoder in it. It didn't come with a manual and I've looked through the manual on the soundtraxx website and I can't figure it out or even find a list of horns. What CV do I program to what value to get a Leslie S5T like what the Frisco used?

Ethan ]]> DCC Iantha_Branch http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6205-Tsunami-horn-selection Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6204-Car-Knocker-Repair-Hoist-from-DEBENLLC&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 03:25:18 GMT Hello Y'all,

I got bit by the bug again today. I am sitting here waiting on the 1x1 lumber from Kappler so I can build Fredericksburg Jct, and I gotta build something. So, I looked to see what I could build. What did I grab? DEBENLLC's Sequoia 4002, Repair Hoist Kit, for my car knockers shop.

This is a very straight forward kit. A box of wood, instructions, three pieces of casting and off to the races you go. The tools I used were simple:

  • NWSL Chopper
  • Ruler
  • Digital Caliper/Micrometer
  • MicroMark Magnetic Jig
  • MicroMark Brass Clamps
  • Elmer's Wood Glue
  • Various Tweesers
  • Pounce Wheel
  • X-acto knife
  • Various files
  • Pencil
  • Dr. Pepper
  • The Dog


The instructions are basic. You need to know how to convert scale distances. The Jim's Dollhouse Scale Conversion Calculator online is invaluable. Key to this build is keeping everything square.
It's a pretty straight forward build but it took me about 9 hours to complete. I added the catwalk next to the pulley, the two Campbell Fire Barrels, which I need to paint, and some of the extra bracing to shore up the hoist.
The kit also comes with NBW's to install, which I will do after I apply the Instant Age, then stain it Oak. I'll paint the bolts with Polly S Flat Aluminum, then rust them up. I'm ordering ladders from Rusty's Stump for the crew to get on top of the hoist and getting some HO Scale chain and hooks to finish it off. I may add a small work table with tools on the side of the hoist for added realism. I definitely need to get another one for the locomotive shop. I highly recommend Richard Bendever and his wife Debbie over at DEBENLLC. Their products are great! You can visit them at: www.debenllc.com.

Here are the pics so far. Enjoy!


Manny


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]]> Structures SABRR http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6204-Car-Knocker-Repair-Hoist-from-DEBENLLC NMRA News http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6203-NMRA-News&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 22:23:27 GMT Below is a copy of a statement from the latest NMRA InfoNet news blast which down the road may be of great interest to anyone wanting Frisco photos because of the photographers involved.

"Because the NMRA's Online Archives has been such a rousing success, several prominent photographers and collectors have begun to donate portions of their collections to the NMRA. The first is noted author/photographer Louis A. Marre, who's donated hundreds of large-format negatives of many subjects. Gregory Sommers has also donated a large collection of freight car slides, and David Lange has donated a large number of scanned images from the collection of the late Jim Morris. Watch for these exciting additions to the NMRA Online Archives in the near future. Hopefully continued donations to The Diamond Club will cover the cost of scanning and preparing the images." ]]> General FriscoFriend http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6203-NMRA-News Gary L. Hemmingway http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6202-Gary-L.-Hemmingway&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 13:38:24 GMT Richard Napper passed this note to me today. It is about gary hemmingway (username). ========================================= A fellow Frisco modeler, Gary L. Hemmingway, a Frisco.Org member, is dying. His wife Kay called me last night, he will probably not last the week. He has no red... Richard Napper passed this note to me today. It is about gary hemmingway (username).

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A fellow Frisco modeler, Gary L. Hemmingway, a Frisco.Org member, is dying. His wife Kay called me last night, he will probably not last the week. He has no red blood cells left which is leading to Leukemia. His kidneys have failed, and they decided not to put him on dialysis and just let him go. He has been a good firend of mine here in Topeka, KS where we both live.
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Our thoughts and prayers are with Gary, his family and friends.

Mike ]]> Frisco Folks friscomike http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6202-Gary-L.-Hemmingway <![CDATA["Stl. and Frisco" Reflective Switch Head]]> http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6201-quot-Stl.-and-Frisco-quot-Reflective-Switch-Head&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 00:12:12 GMT My cousin, Treff Earney Jr., is a long serving Frisco, BN, BNSF maintenance of way employee. A few years ago, he found this item lying along the Salem Branch near Steelville. He was gracious enough to give it to me.

Until now, I have kept this in my parent's garage in Wesco, but today during a belated Mother's Day visit, I decided to bring it home. Looking inside the base which affixes to the top of the switch stand, I noticed "Stl. & Frisco" in raised letters.

I have never heard of our beloved railroad referred to like this and was wondering if anyone else had. When I got home, I sanded it off and painted it with good ol' Krylon BBQ Grill and Stove paint. Someday, I'd like to restore it properly and replace the missing reflectors.

Pat Moreland,
Union Mo.
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]]> Memorabilia wpmoreland719 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6201-quot-Stl.-and-Frisco-quot-Reflective-Switch-Head hello from sullivan, mo http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6200-hello-from-sullivan-mo&goto=newpost Mon, 14 May 2012 21:50:02 GMT i just joined the forum.........looking forward to browsing thru it. i was raised around the frisco and have memories dating back to the late 1940s thru present......spent many hours in the lindenwood diesel shop riding around with the hostlers...on all the first generation diesels.........got to... i just joined the forum.........looking forward to browsing thru it. i was raised around the frisco and have memories dating back to the late 1940s thru present......spent many hours in the lindenwood diesel shop riding around with the hostlers...on all the first generation diesels.........got to know everyone who worked there from 1962 till it closed....but the frisco is still alive in all of us ....Bob Zucco Sullivan, Mo ]]> New Member Introductions rszucco http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6200-hello-from-sullivan-mo Locomotive #3 on the Texas Lines? http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6199-Locomotive-3-on-the-Texas-Lines&goto=newpost Mon, 14 May 2012 20:42:41 GMT Folks -
I've been going through all of the old Frisco Employee's Magazine issues online, trying to compile a spreadsheet of locomotive usage across the SL-SF from the regular feature, "Locomotive Fuel Performance Reports."

This one from the February, 1931 FEM caught my eye:

Seymour Sub: Engineer BUTLER, fireman STRICKLAND, engine 3, train 25, November 5, Mineral Wells to Seymour, handled 91,800 gross ton miles, burned 1,737 gallons oil, performance 18.8 gallons per 1,000 gross ton miles.

I'm wondering if this is a typo for a couple of reasons:
(a) I've not seen any other evidence of the 2-10-2 locomotives operating outside of the Eastern and Southern Divisions, and
(b) I was under the impression (mainly from Frisco Power) that all of the spot series locomotives were coal-burners?

Thanks in advance for anyone that can clarify.

Best Regards, ]]> 2-10-2 Santa Fe yardmaster http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6199-Locomotive-3-on-the-Texas-Lines WWI US Artillery for flat car loads. Will 25 MM be close? http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6198-WWI-US-Artillery-for-flat-car-loads.-Will-25-MM-be-close&goto=newpost Mon, 14 May 2012 14:09:49 GMT Yawn....

Boy am I tired, but still kickin'.

The idea came to me since San Antonio was hopping with military activity between 1913-1920, that I would create an interesting load with two artillery pieces of the period on a flat car. Fair enough, except that finding WWI vintage military equipment in HO Scale is non-existent!

Off to the world of military miniatures. I was able to find a 25MM version of the 75mm US Army field gun. I think it will work. I'm not the most precise calculator of scales, so if anyone can help me out here. The gun comes in at just under 7 feet tall scaled out.

The gun is the M1897 and M1897-A2 modeled after the famous French Canone de 75. I've tried to find dimensions of the gun, but I cannot. How frustrating.

Can anyone help me with scaling out 25mm against HO Scale?

Thanks,

Manny

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]]> General SABRR http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6198-WWI-US-Artillery-for-flat-car-loads.-Will-25-MM-be-close <![CDATA[Stack used on 1500's and 4100's]]> http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6197-Stack-used-on-1500-s-and-4100-s&goto=newpost Sun, 13 May 2012 15:18:58 GMT Howdy folks,

Does anyone k now a source for or have a spare HO scale exhaust stack that was used on the 1500's and 4100's? I sure would like to update some USRA heavy mikes to look more Frisco and the big exhaust would help a lot. I was thinking of removing the stack on my 1500, but have cold feet so far. If I can get a master, then I can reproduce it for the models.

Best,
mike ]]> 2-8-2 Mikado friscomike http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6197-Stack-used-on-1500-s-and-4100-s 1966 Frisco wall calendars http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6196-1966-Frisco-wall-calendars&goto=newpost Sat, 12 May 2012 01:52:57 GMT Can someone please tell me if there are meetings or shows or where I might be able to sell 1966 Frisco wall calendars? I have many of them for sale, but they're so large I don't know how I would be able to ship them. I thought I might be able to sell them at some sort of Frisco trade show. Also, how can I find out what these are worth? It seems like several years ago I saw some on eBay for about $20 apiece. ]]> Memorabilia Taylorsmommie http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6196-1966-Frisco-wall-calendars Save my House Update http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6195-Save-my-House-Update&goto=newpost Fri, 11 May 2012 17:30:45 GMT Well the Train show got me $400+ to my goal ($3000.00). Plus, no one has bought any of my goods or even offered another price on the swap meet. :( I thought that my Frisco Family" could help me out, so far "no". Please, I need your help.....this is not a scam. If you want to help, let me know and I'll let you know the company to make out the check/money order too. thanks to all of you who have looked so far. Please, buy or help if you can.
Thanks,
Jason, Ann and Family
the Ross' ]]> Swap Meet train61 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6195-Save-my-House-Update 2012 Frisco Convention Dates http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6194-2012-Frisco-Convention-Dates&goto=newpost Fri, 11 May 2012 04:39:47 GMT *August 31-September 02, September 14-16 or September 21-23.* August 31-September 02,
September 14-16 or
September 21-23. ]]> 2012 Frisco Convention friscomike http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6194-2012-Frisco-Convention-Dates Sprog III http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6193-Sprog-III&goto=newpost Thu, 10 May 2012 16:44:43 GMT I always have to do things a little differently and the same goes for my choice of DCC systems. Today I ordered a Sprog III DCC system which is both a programmer and a controller. $135.00 including shipping. Everything is included such as power unit and software and all you need is a laptop or home... I always have to do things a little differently and the same goes for my choice of DCC systems. Today I ordered a Sprog III DCC system which is both a programmer and a controller. $135.00 including shipping. Everything is included such as power unit and software and all you need is a laptop or home computer to make it all work. I will report on it as soon as I receive it and get it up and running. The functions are point and click right on the computer screen. Should be interesting. I can't hardly wait to get my engine # 151 up and running. Has anyone here ever used Sprog? ]]> Other DCC systems Jim James http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6193-Sprog-III Running Them Like Streetcars on the Ash Grove Sub http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6192-Running-Them-Like-Streetcars-on-the-Ash-Grove-Sub&goto=newpost Thu, 10 May 2012 03:32:02 GMT The Frisco’s Ash Gove Subdivision was a favorite. It was a bit of a throw back, since it retained its 19-teens era APBS semaphores, timetable/train order operation, and the affectations of such operations, i.e., extras, following sections, take-siding indicators, etc. Per the Eastern Division ETT... The Frisco’s Ash Gove Subdivision was a favorite. It was a bit of a throw back, since it retained its 19-teens era APBS semaphores, timetable/train order operation, and the affectations of such operations, i.e., extras, following sections, take-siding indicators, etc. Per the Eastern Division ETT #2, 9/9/73, four daily southbound freights, four daily northbound freights, a tri-weekly southbound local, and a northbound tri-weekly local plied the subdivision between Edwards and Nichols. The APBS-semaphores and the 7 open-agencies were more than adequate to handle the traffic.

When thinking of extra movements and trains running in multiple sections, we Frisco fans are drawn back to the war years and a single-track mainline plugged with trains running between St Louis and Springfield. This is exemplified by a train order found on page 173 of Collias’s Frisco Power.

We might be inclined to think that by the 70’s, the era of extras, and multiple-section trains was a thing of the past, but on the Ash Grove Subdivision, it was not the case. During the early 70’s, lead units bearing white and green flags were not that uncommon. This set of orders delivered to 2nd KCX is evidence that the Frisco was still “runn’n’ ‘em like streetcars” during the early 70’s.


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Form CT-94 Indicates that the operator at Lockwood had orders 17, 16, and F10 for train Second KCX (Kansas City Express).


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Train order 17 is a Form E Time Order, which was addressed to trains Second KCX, NWF, and local 5810. First 135 was running about 30 minutes to the bad, and the DS set-up the wait order so the inferior trains would know where 135 and her following sections would be.

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Train order 16 is a Form K order which annulled number 61 between Edwards and Nichols. Train 61 delivered freight from KC to Ft Scott and Springfield for points in SW MO and NW Arkansas.

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Train order F10 is a Form Y order, which was used to protect track work between Dix and Golden City.
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]]> Freight Operations Karl http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6192-Running-Them-Like-Streetcars-on-the-Ash-Grove-Sub Save My House #7 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6191-Save-My-House-7&goto=newpost Wed, 09 May 2012 23:45:44 GMT All prices don't include postage.

Frisco heavy gauge sign-$50.00, obo.

Frisco uniform bottons-5, Gold $10.00 each.
5, sliver $5.00 each.

Unused forms, one each:
MW 40A 1949
MW 151
MW 142 1949
MW 125
MW 72 1957
MW 98
MW 89
MW 89 1949
MW 43
$20.00 FOR THE WHOLE LOT.

Model Power Railroad CORK bed:
3ft sections
$2.00 each.
I have 3 boxes w/ 25 each box @ $50.00 each box, obo. ]]> Swap Meet train61 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?6191-Save-My-House-7