SL&SF OR SL-SF

[patrick]

I was wondering which is correct. St. Louis and San Fransico, or St. Louis - San Fransico. I always thought it was SL-SF, but it seems I read somewhere that it was SL&SF. I noticed this site calls it SL&SF, so that is why I am asking.

[tunst]

Finally.. a discussion. I wont be a self proclaimed know it all like so many railfans you meet. I do have both the books about the Frisco and my dad retired from them before the evil horde took over in '79. I am quoteing the following facts (not making them up to sound like a authority) Before 1916 it was the SL&SF. After 1916 it reorganized and became SL-SF. Page 6 of Frisco In Color by Louis A. Marre-Gregory J. Sommers

[john]

There is more before this;that and this from "A Brief History and Steam Locomotive Roster of The St.Louis-San Francisco" by H.K.Vollrath in Midwest Railroader, Feb.1964
St.Louis & San Francisco Railway Co. formed 9-7-1876 from
Atlantic & Pacific Railroad Co. but came under AT&SF control in 1890.
Out of AT&SF control and receivership new company formed
as St.Louis & San Francisco Railroad Co.in June 1896.
B.F.Yoakum's "Frisco System" broken up,sold, emerged as
St.Louis-San Francisco Railway Co. on 8-24-1916.
LONG LIVE THE FRISCO!!!!!!!!!

[rogerrt477]

Pat-
I does get confusing:

1) St.Louis & San Francisco Railway 1876-1896
2) St.Louis & San Francisco Railroad 1896-1916
3) St.Louis-San Francisco Railway 1916-1980

Hope this clears it up. Roger

[jim]

Does anyone have information or the death of "JAMES PERRY METZ"?
He was killed, while unloading a fram tractor off of a rail car, Dec. 22, 1919, near Advance MO.
His brother--Gorge A. Metz, did work for the S,L& S,F RR, in 1917. (don't know the lengh of time)

My E-Mail---jmetz637@msn.com
Thank You Jim Metz

[ray]

I have a Alake lock with just SL SF no dash or & so I don't know what date line it falls in. ???