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kgomez
12-06-2007, 08:27 AM
I would like to find out what all I can about Lyons, Kansas. I know a great deal about the RR history here(in Lyons, I live "here"). I know mostly about the ATSF's presence here in Lyons, but not much about the Frisco, and even less about the MoPac(I guess I should save the MoPac questions for their forum:)) Any and all info is appreciated.



Kyle Gomez
17 years
Senior, Lyons High

Rick Morgan
12-08-2007, 10:50 AM
Here's some construction and abandonment info from my notes. ANy additions/corrections welcome. I was through Lyons last month and shot the former ATSF depot there.

ATSF
Marion & Mc Pherson RR Florence to East line of Barton County 93mi 1879-80
Marion & Mc Pherson Extension RR E. Line of Barton Cty to Ellinwood 5.5 1881
Combined as Marion & McPherson RY, 1882
To ATSF 1901
To Central Kansas 1993
To Kansas & Oklahoma 2001

Lyons to Conway abandoned by CK 2001

MP
Salina, Sterling & El Paso RR Sterling to Geneseo 22.2 1887
To Kansas, Colorado & Pacific RY 1891
To Missouri Pacific RY 1909
To K&O 2001

SLSF
Kansas Midland RY Medora to Ellsworth 57mi 1888
To St Louis & San Francisco RR 1900
To Burlington Northern RR 1980
To Central Kansas RY 1993

Medora to Lyons abandoned by BN 1985
Lyons to Lorraine to Galatia abandoned by CKRY 1997

You may want to check the KS Department of Transportation web page; it has old county road and rail maps available for download back to the 1930s and 40s; they also have a KS rail map with abandonments listed on it.

Rick Morgan

yardmaster
12-09-2007, 08:34 AM
Kyle -
The Frisco "Official List of Officers, Stations, Agents, Etc." No. 18 from 5-1-1926 lists no agent for Lyons (Station F577), MP 577.4 "N S" is the telegraph call, and there is a Western Union Telegraph Office listed there - call sign "C D"

There is also a "Lyons Salt Co." listed at MP 574.7 (Station F575); it is not listed as a railroad freight or ticket station.

This reference also lists Lyons as a coaling station, with "cars" as the source (e.g. coal brought in gondolas or hoppers and shoveled to the locomotive tender as needed). Interestingly...there are no stock pens listed for Lyons.

kgomez
12-10-2007, 07:12 AM
thanks a bunch, guys. keep it coming! :)

MFreix
05-06-2010, 11:19 AM
Does anyone know what kind of cars the salt company received or shipped?

yardmaster
05-06-2010, 01:31 PM
Matthew -
Just a guess on my part, but I reckon it was mostly boxcars in the pre-WWII era.

The November, 1926 "Frisco Employee's Magazine" has a feature article on the Western & American Salt Cos. in Lyons:

http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/frisco/magazines/fem_1926_11/fem_1926_11.pdf

It notes that 600 cars of salt a month were moved over the Frisco from Lyons; the salt was apparently shipped in at least two ways: salt that was apparently sacked and sold to the commercial trade for farmers and others for general purposes, and then shipped in bulk for general purposes.

MFreix
05-06-2010, 01:53 PM
If modeling this in the 80's would I be safe in assuming covered hoppers and boxcars still?

I may have to take a trip to central KS and document all remaining industry along the line.


Matthew -
Just a guess on my part, but I reckon it was mostly boxcars in the pre-WWII era.

The November, 1926 "Frisco Employee's Magazine" has a feature article on the Western & American Salt Cos. in Lyons:

http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/frisco/magazines/fem_1926_11/fem_1926_11.pdf

It notes that 600 cars of salt a month were moved over the Frisco from Lyons; the salt was apparently shipped in at least two ways: salt that was apparently sacked and sold to the commercial trade for farmers and others for general purposes, and then shipped in bulk for general purposes.

mvtelegrapher
05-06-2010, 05:05 PM
In the 1980's mostly boxcars with some covered hoppers. I work for Watco/KO and we still get boxcars of salt and a few covered hoppers today from North American Salt in Lyons.

John Chambers