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  • FriscoFriend's Avatar
    3 Hours Ago
    To All: Expanding on this discussion and hopefully shedding more light upon just how amazing a place Spring Creek Hobbies is in my opinion takes some understanding about where it is located and other train related attractions that are in the immediate area. Below is the town description taken from the Chamber website: "Deshler, Nebraska; population 892 is located in the heart of farming country with cattle, corn, and wheat being the...
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  • train61's Avatar
    4 Hours Ago
    Hey Ken your doing 9th AVE yard. I've got plans for that one too. 1950-51, when all the remaining steam switchers, and a few gp7's, was in Bham before the SW9's showed up in Jan 52.
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  • SAFN SAAP's Avatar
    5 Hours Ago
    My apologies for the long delay in getting back to you.... The Claremore, OK, local is now in the shop. Claremore Local
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  • kenmc's Avatar
    6 Hours Ago
    Chris, I'm still in the 1949-50 era, but definitely more steam-focused. Ninth Avenue Yard itself lasted until the '50's, but the roundhouse was gone sometime before that. I will keep the roundhouse and base all of my local and transfer operations from there, using the Frisco's smaller steam power. I won't have any real mainline operations, but this is a very interesting plan for me. I will post photos as the development accommodates. ...
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  • William Jackson's Avatar
    7 Hours Ago
    I've been looking at their website and signed up for the news letter. Postage is much less then gasoline. Course if you are one of the guy's who is always looking for a deal. Last Saturday, at Deland Fl, their was still plenty of the BB, Model Power and Roundhouse stuff for $5 to 8 bucks. As for me I will pay the shipping, I only want, what I want, Not looking for a deal on a crummy model to start with. I can take a fairly good kit and turn it...
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  • klrwhizkid's Avatar
    8 Hours Ago
    The space encompasses just under 600 square feet; 30' x 20'.
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  • cthart's Avatar
    13 Hours Ago
    Not as close as they were a few years ago when postage was still affordable...
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  • slsfrr's Avatar
    15 Hours Ago
    Trainchaser007, The Pickens was a short line rr in South Carolina that was owned by a person or group that also had box cars for lease and use. The Mississippian apparently provided reporting marks and storage for those cars. I am not sure if they actually owned the Mississippian or just found them convenient. Here is a couple of link that has information and pictures: http://www.msrailroads.com/Mississippian.htm ...
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  • gstout's Avatar
    16 Hours Ago
    How much space have you allocated to this layout? GS
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  • klrwhizkid's Avatar
    16 Hours Ago
    Yahoo! Construction has started. This evening, fellow Frisco folk, Rick McClellan came over and we mounted the built-up studs with cantilevers that I had made. They were fastened to the bare concrete walls with Tapcon screws. The cantilevers will support the benchwork without the need for knee braces from the benchwork to the walls underneath. Some additional framing, boxing in of a soil stack needs to be completed before electrical work and...
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  • William Jackson's Avatar
    19 Hours Ago
    William Jackson replied to a thread Frisco Archive in General
    Joe good to hear from you, I do not have much of a memory prior to the Kansas expressway. So the photo may be as you have said. I can remember, Thoman St. being blocked off, because it interfered with my Trick or Treating on Halloween. Course we used to be able to go all the way down Thoman and come back on Alantic. I lived almost behind Johnson Avenue Xovers and used to hear the clack clack at night. I would like to see anything from the lab. I...
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  • Peddling Joe's Avatar
    20 Hours Ago
    Peddling Joe replied to a thread Frisco Archive in General
    Conversation with two retired lab employees and one retired west yard switchman today resulted in our viewing a copy of the engine Bill Jackson feels was taken in the west yards, in front of the stock yards. These fellows seem to think the building was a former lumber concern located west of the stock yards and east of the lab. In front was the service track. Irregardles of the buillding shown in the picture, one of these former lab officers...
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  • gjslsffan's Avatar
    21 Hours Ago
    gjslsffan replied to a thread Sad News in Announcements
    That was some great talent, sorry he passed.
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  • Charlie Dix's Avatar
    22 Hours Ago
    Charlie Dix replied to a thread Sad News in Announcements
    I have looked at that site many times. I've always loved that artwork. Charlie
    7 replies | 194 view(s)
  • DanHyde's Avatar
    22 Hours Ago
    DanHyde replied to a thread Sad News in Announcements
    Here is a link to a website that has his work. He evidently liked the Frisco a bunch! Quite a few sold. Dan http://www.highlandsstationllc.com/Harmantas.htm
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  • DanHyde's Avatar
    23 Hours Ago
    Interesting video at their site. Looks like a restoration under way! If they need help?? I'd join in!! Dan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4G8hREPjHw&sns=fb
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  • yardmaster's Avatar
    23 Hours Ago
    Excellent info and clarifications, Ken and Jerome - thanks very much for sharing! Ken, I may be terribly behind, but is your 9th Street Yard a new venture? If so, have you backdated? Best Regards,
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  • kenmc's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Nick and Brandon, Here is an image that I drew the route on. Note that the line jogged north a block to bypass the Frisco Ninth Avenue Yard and proceeded along Tenth avenue parallel to the SAL line. The SAL actually had trackage rights on the Frisco from FY (Freight Yard) Junction over Billy Goat hill to Pratt City. I am modeling the Ninth Avenue Yard. It remained in service to support the downtown industrial switching long after East...
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  • SAFN SAAP's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    So is she restored and running, or still sitting on the deadline?
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  • Bradley A. Scott's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Here's a link to the Facebook page of an Explorer troop that is reportedly working on restoring the much-travelled #76: https://www.facebook.com/explorerpost1225 It was sent to me by the Steam Railroading Institute in Owosso (link: http://michigansteamtrain.com/). BAS
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  • trainchaser007's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Thanks for the link to B'ham rails. As for the Mississippian... The only thing that came up in a google search for "Pickens railroad" was about a short line in South Carolina. I'm not saying a connection between the Mississippian and a S.C. RR is impossible, but the distance between the two makes me question it. However, by "Pickens Railroad," would you possibly referring to the AT&N/Frisco? The AT&N (later absorbed into the Frisco)...
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  • meteor910's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    meteor910 replied to a thread Sad News in Announcements
    Very sorry to hear the news of Andrew's passing. I first met him at an early FMIG meeting. I remember how stunned I was upon seeing how outstandingly good his paintings were. Ken
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  • Ozarktraveler's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    For any wishing to drive the dirt road from Seligman MO to Beaver AR, which has views of the railroad r.o.w. and actually uses the r.o.w. as the road part of the time, know that flooding has washed out the road such that you can't go through all the way. (West of what is known locally as the Rock House and near the old John Sinclair place.) At least for now.
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  • pensive's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    pensive replied to a thread Amory in Tupelo Subdivision
    Here's a picture of a caboose with obvious Frisco origins: Rich
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  • slsfrr's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Trainchaser007, Go to this web site and it will tell you every thing you want to know about Birmingham rails: http://www.bhamrails.info/ The two mainlines that you refer to are the old BS main line and the original Frisco main line. The BS turned toward the L&N depot (no connection) and the Frisco went straight to the original yard at 9th Av.. All that is gone now due to highway construction, but if you look at the above web site it will...
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  • klrwhizkid's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Colin, in today's world they are practically at your doorstep.
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  • trainchaser007's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    trainchaser007 replied to a thread Amory in Tupelo Subdivision
    Has the Mississippian Railway ever owned their own rolling stock with their own lettering or at least stencils? I've never seen any in person and the only photos I can find show their locos pulling Frisco rolling stock. If anyone finds a picture of Mississippian rolling stock, please let me know. - Brandon P.S.-Better yet, if anyone knows of any Mississippian HO scale stuff for sale, definitely let me know. For now I assume nothing exists so...
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  • SAFN SAAP's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    SAFN SAAP replied to a thread Sad News in Announcements
    Sorry to hear of his loss. Now he's painting for the ages. All the Frisco family in Heaven has welcomed him home. Now he paints for everyone!
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  • TAG1014's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    TAG1014 replied to a thread Sad News in Announcements
    I certainly enjoyed his Frisco themed paintings. Tom G.
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  • Charlie Dix's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Thanks for the heads up. It will look good in my collection. Charlie :)
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  • Charlie Dix's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Charlie Dix replied to a thread Sad News in Announcements
    I am sorry to hear that. :( Charlie
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  • trainchaser007's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Does BNSF also interchange with the Luxipalila Valley Railroad (LXVR) at Columbus? There's a shortline in the Columbus area called the Golden Triangle Railroad. I've seen boxcars like these at Columbus and in the BN yard at Amory back in the 80's and early 90's. in July 2012, I saw one for the first time in about 20 years, sitting in the Pensacola yard near the old Frisco turntable. I'd like to have anything "Golden Triangle" to run on my...
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  • frisco1522's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    frisco1522 started a thread Sad News in Announcements
    I got an email from a friend over the weekend telling me that Andrew Harmantas passed away last Thursday night. He was a great artist, good modeler and an all around nice guy who loved the Frisco. He will be missed.
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  • Sirfoldalot's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    Outstanding, Carry on Sir! image sort of "sticks" with you.
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  • train61's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    ill check into that. by way of the sanborn maps from bham public lib.
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  • cthart's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    I'm *glad* this store isn't closer to my house!
    9 replies | 289 view(s)
  • WindsorSpring's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    WindsorSpring replied to a thread Caboose SLSF 1232 in 1230-1259
    Interesting group of photos that truly show how cold it was. I bet seeing the scene shown in "045.jpg" got many an over-indulger to reconsider their life-style!
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  • meteor910's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    Spring Creek is now my "co-pusher". I really liked the way they do things when I bought my 38-2's. Ken
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  • gjslsffan's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    Kinda like looking at a welding arc, you just cant un-see that :):)
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  • gjslsffan's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    I am calling them tomarra
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  • trainchaser007's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    If this were HO, it would be on it's way to my address as of this minute. Maybe some N scaler is equally as fascinated with the AT&N. By the way, "axis" is the first part of the image verification code for this post. Anyone who knows anything about the AT&N should find that interesting to say the least. It's a sign, N scalers.:eek:...
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  • paul slavens's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    paul slavens replied to a thread Caboose SLSF 1232 in 1230-1259
    Below are pics from early Feb 2014 when 1232 moved from Seneca Mo. to Tulsa. It was very cold that day, less than 10 degrees. The crane was NE of the caboose, trailer was N of the caboose. Because of power lines on the E side of the caboose, the trucks had to be lifted over the school house to another trailer that was on the east side of the school. The trip was fairly easy with no major disruptions, the loaded height was 15' 6" .
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  • paul slavens's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    paul slavens replied to a thread Caboose SLSF 1232 in 1230-1259
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  • yardmaster's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    Really neat find, Jim. First thoughts are that maybe it was an award/recognition for safety or fewest damaged carloads? I should probably heed Karl's advice, though, and actually research in the FEMs. Best Regards,
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  • Coonskin's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    I wholeheartedly second what John said: "The North Arkansas Line" by Dr. James Fair Jr. is simply one of the best written, engaging rail histories I've ever read. The North Arkansas had it all! Some boom, a lot of bust, tragedy, humor, drama, conflict... even a lynching is in its history! The North Arkansas' history is almost like a Hollywood script. If you have ANY interest in the North Arkansas, you really owe it to yourself to find and...
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  • mvtelegrapher's Avatar
    2 Days Ago
    If you are interested in learning more about the original Missouri and North Arkansas I highly recomend reading "The North Arkansas Line" by James R. Fair, Jr. In my opinion one of the best railroad history books ever written. Also look at the thread on this site of the Arkansas and Ozarks railroad which was the name of the last operating section of the M&NA including the Eureka Springs branch. It was posted by Jeff Cooney and has some...
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  • DanHyde's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Good thing I am not in HO anymore!! Looks like a Pilgrimage to Mecca!!
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  • TAG1014's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Who-hoo-I wish that store was closer to my house... Tom G.
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  • Rick McClellan's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Appreciate the humor Tom but I gotta go have my burned retinas treated . .
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  • SteveM's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    You should have been tired, building box cars singlehandedly. Manny, if there's any chance you could come up to Joplin for the joint meeting in October, the groups(s) would love to see some of your work.
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  • klrwhizkid's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    On Saturday, March 29, I made a trip to Spring Creek Model Trains in Deshler, NE to pick up my four new Genesis Frisco GP38-2 locomotives. I had made arrangements in advance since the shop is normally closed on Saturdays since the owners, Dave and Deb Zucker are usually out at a mid-western train show with their mobile train business. I was greeted by Ken and Lela German, Deb's mom and dad, who were in the shop to open shipments that had...
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  • SAFN SAAP's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    I'll post up the sanding of the roof in the morning. I'm a lil tired. Time for bed...
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  • SAFN SAAP's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    FASCIA BOARD SANDING: Once the sides are completely dry, when you place them in position, you will notice that the outer roof's fascia allowance is a veritable cliff overhang. It needs to be sanded down. This is where you use again, your flat surface, i.e., a sheet of glass, sand paper and a spacer. The spacer should be a piece of balsa 1/32" thick and about 4" wide. You can find these in the craft section of Hobby Lobby, or your local art...
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  • Karl's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    The Frisco trackage on the Clinton Sub to Dodson and on the KC Sub to Rosedale was called the Kansas City Terminal (Subdivision) of the Frisco. This has nothing to do with the KCT RR. The Frisco Employee Magazine might be able to shed some light about he nature of this "award".
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  • TAG1014's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    TAG1014 replied to a thread 1520 Model in 1500 Class Mountains
    Thanks. Tom G.
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  • gjslsffan's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    gjslsffan replied to a thread Todays op session in General
    Raining, sleeting and now snowing here today, so out to the MRR I went just to make sure the outfit would still run. And happened to catch 3 QA&P units on the same train, that MK rent a wreck is still on the property too. Had a couple operators here as well switching up a storm.
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  • SAFN SAAP's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Now you have a complete sub-frame, with end fascia and sheeting. Time to drill the end of car grab iron holes. These will vary from car to car. Some go all the way to the top. Some only a few steps. Others are angled at 45* on the end of the car for the brakeman/conductor to have something to hold onto as they are reaching for the cut lever, glad hand, or something else. The Steger cars have grabs up the end of the car, and only one on the right...
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  • Jim James's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    I can already see that these are going to be beauties. Nice write up.
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  • gbmott's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Tom I think you can only say that SOME cab roofs were red. I have sent a photo to you off line (because it is not mine) to support that. Gordon
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  • SAFN SAAP's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Alrighty, Lets start with the build thread. The Steger's were 40' boxcars, so I chose to use LaBelle's HO-47 Illinois Central as the starting point. I'm not a big fan of doing multiple kits at once, but since I only have two to do identically, it was no big deal. Here is what the kit looks like in the box. A set of instructions and a bunch of wooden parts. The first thing I work on it marking the underside of the floors for the truck...
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  • gjslsffan's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Thanks to all for the comments and input, I am always humbled by the words from you folks, a great bunch of people for sure.
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  • gjslsffan's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Thanks Murphy, for the comments. I always appreciate the input. And heck yes I will take that clown, I have never seen a caboose more perfect for a clown than this one LOL. PM me and I will get you my address. Thanks!!
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  • KCTRWY's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    I bought the attached recently on eBay and am trying to learn more of the history of it. It's a small metal medallion only about 2" x 1" that is inscribed "Kansas City Terminal Fourth Quarter 1929". What's fascinating is that it's shaped like the Frisco coonskin. There are two small mounting holes which suggests that it might have been part of an award board of some kind in 1929. My first thought was that this might have been an award...
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  • frisco1522's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    frisco1522 replied to a thread 1520 Model in 1500 Class Mountains
    1528 was in a pretty bad wreck and the tender got trashed. 1520 was in a head on collision with the 4208 down in MS and both engines got badly damaged. When they emerged from the shop, they had these welded jobs behind them. 4208 was rebuilt and the Baker valve gear was replaced with Walshaerts. It was the only one of the 20 4200s that didn't have Baker gear.
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  • TAG1014's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    What about those open, wire sided "poultry" cars?? What period were those things still being used? Anyone know? Thanks, Tom
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  • yardmaster's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    Ah, that makes perfect sense. Thanks very much, Karl. Best Regards,
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  • Karl's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    The chicks were handled by REA, and we're not part of Frisco lcl numbers.
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  • TAG1014's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    The books: Frisco In Color by Marre and Sommers and Frisco In Color, Volume Two by Greg Stout are goldmines of color photos. Frisco didn't leave much behind in surviving "official" painting diagrams/drawings. At this stage of history, photographs are probably all that's left for painting and lettering reference. Tom G.
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  • pbender's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    I believe the numbers in this thread are about carload lots. As I understand it, the Clinton chicks were handled as an LCL shipment in a baggage car, so they woud not be included here. That operation lasted into the 1960s, though moved from trains 20 and 21 to trains 58 and 58 ( the mixed locals). Paul
    23 replies | 1839 view(s)
  • CHKmoundcity's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    I have the Microscale HO decals to reference. They are helpful but I was looking for primary sources. My S scale locomotives waiting for new paint include a couple of SW9s, a half dozen GP9s that could be converted to GP7s and an AB set of F3s. A couple of wide vision cabooses could use a new paint job too. So the Microscale decals provide a good starting point but there might be better info out there. Tom P Gainesville VA
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  • yardmaster's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    This thread and the data that Ken originally shared has caught my eye again. He's noted that, in 1950, there was 1 car loading of "live poultry." This strikes me as curious, knowing that as late as 1956, the Clinton "chicken train" (http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3604-Clinton-chicken-train&highlight=chicken) was still a going thing. I wonder if movements of live poultry were tallied differently? Best Regards,
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  • TAG1014's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    TAG1014 replied to a thread 1520 Model in 1500 Class Mountains
    Admiring Don's terrific 1520 model reminded me of the mention in Collias' Frisco Power (page 167) that at some point in its history that engine had a large rebuilt tender. I recently bought a copy of "Locomotive Quarterly" (Fall 1977) and in there (page 47) was a picture of 1528 and it also had a similar large tender. According to Collias, 1520's tender had been rebuilt as a result of an accident, anyone know the history of 1528's big tender?...
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  • TAG1014's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    One of those Microscale sheets was posted here by Karl Brand a day or two ago: http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=26962&d=1396908545 Tom G.
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  • gstout's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    I think I have lettering diagrams that came with some (HO) Microscale (E, F, GP units plus caboose) sets that I have. I could photocopy them and send them to you if you think these would help. I am sure by now you are more than clear on the fact that yours is a minority scale without much support from suppliers. GS
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  • yardmaster's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    yardmaster replied to a thread Stock Car Detail... in General
    If 46380 is the winning number, I suspect this stock car and its kin didn't last much longer than the 2-10-2s, save the relics that were assigned to the Fort Leonard Wood branch. I looked in my '43 Official Register and the lowest numbered stock cars start at 47200 (443 total in the 47200-47699 batch buit by AC&F in 1910 - see FMIG Newsletter #40). Newsletter #28(A) has a 1918 Official Register for the Frisco. Stock Cars 46200-47199 show...
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