Wichita Diesel Shop?

Discussion in 'Diesel Service Facilities' started by TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020), Jul 24, 2013.

  1. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    My idea about the inquiry Paul B. made about one of the snapshots Charlie scanned and posted:

    That might be the small shop building at Wichita. It was kind of the same architecture as the big shop at Springfield. Might have been built about the same time?? Neat little "pike size" building.

    Tom G.
  2. fredpavey

    fredpavey Member

    Re: Wichita Diesel Shop??

    The pic with Engine 102 is on the east side of the Frisco diesel shop in Wichita, which was located just north of 29th N. & Ohio St. The pic with the Frisco GP7 (500 series number - hard to read in pic) was at the fueling tower in front of the Wichita Yard Office.

  3. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I think you are talking about this photo:


    It can actually be discussed on the photo page which is here in order to not have two separate discussions going.

  4. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Are there any plans or blueprints "out there" (Like in the Frisco Museum's "All Aboard" or an employee magazine article etc.) for the Wichita Diesel Shop? It would make a great "pike-size" structure. Seems I remember a similar small Santa Fe shop building in an old Model Railroader magazine or plan book. I read someplace that EMD made suggestions for laying out diesel shops for the railroads in the early diesel era. The Wichita building is the same tan brick architecture as the larger Springfield shop, but much more manageable from a modeling standpoint.

    Tom G.
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  5. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Are these the negs that were listed on ebay? Man, they are rough.
  6. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Yes, I bought some of them and did not win others. This was done with my scanner. I don't know if developing them would do better or not. I kind of doubt it but I'm not sure. If someone can do better with them I can forward them on via mail. I was disappointed in the quality.

  7. Friscotony

    Friscotony Member

    Tom, in checking my yard blueprint, I can offer the following information about the Wichita shop. The overall length of the building was 132 feet and it was 32 foot wide. It was a single stall type of arrangement and the track went through the building so you could enter it from the North (yard lead) or from the south which had a lead off the main. The track was located on the west side of the building and there was a shop on the east side of the building. At the south end of the shop, there was a 65 foot concrete pit. I do have photos and hand measurements of this building if anyone is interested.

    Tony L.
  8. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks for those details Tony. I think I can work from that and the posted photos. That building did have a "family" resemblance to the Springfield diesel shop, also the Springfield paint shop, dining car building, and the CTC building (Later the former Frisco Museum) all tan brick comstruction built around the same time.

    Tom G.
  9. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I would be interested. As Tom noted, this is a great building to model.

  10. rich57

    rich57 Member

    I would be interested including maybe some scans of your yard blueprint. I am also interested in all structures associated with the Wichita yard. Thank you

    Rich Purcell
  11. Friscotony

    Friscotony Member

    I will get my stuff together and see if I can put it on the site. My scan of the yard is 6 pages and is in Adobe, so not too sure how to upload that.
  12. slsfrr (Jerome Lutzenberger RIP 9/1/2018)

    slsfrr (Jerome Lutzenberger RIP 9/1/2018) Engineer Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Looking time table direction west train is entering Wichita yard. First building to the right is the yard office, trainmasters office, special agents office, and bunk house. The next big building is the diesel shop. The track to the left is the ATSF interchange track. The Frisco switched the elevator as needed. Straight a head is the yard switcher pulling a cut of cars out of a yard track. Picture was taken in 1966. At that time Wichita had two yard jobs (2nd & 3rd trick) and a train 6 days a week in each direction. The Ellsworth turn would usually make a turn before getting to Ellsworth. A total of 5 jobs plus a hostler. As info the Ellsworth turn was one of the first crew consist agreement jobs on the Frisco. It had a Conductor, Brakeman, and Engineer. The two yard jobs had only a Foreman, Switchman, and Engineer. The relief Switchman work two day 2nd and three days 3rd making the 3rd trick a full crew one day a week. The jobs east to Neodesha were full crews. Out of Neodesha a 6 day Beaumont turn work mainly switching the cement plant at Fredonia. Very seldom did they go past Severy. 2nd picture is Beaumont looking west toward Wichita. Depot is on the left and water tower on the right. Also to the left is a three track yard and Y. Picture also taken in 1966.

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