Where Was This Frisco Freight House Or Depot - Inquiry

Discussion in 'Freight Houses' started by klrwhizkid, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. When you look at the aerial photograph of the Tulsa Union Depot, you can see three boxcars alongside the office part of the freight depot.

    That would make the office section at least 120' long.

    The photo in the original post doesn't appear to be nearly that long.

    I'd rule out Tulsa.
     
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  2. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I thought I would bump this thread since we have had injections of new blood.

    Everyone please read through this thread again.
     
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  3. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Zoiks, it has been a while.

    I haven't a clue, but looking through the thread, I'm not sure I've seen OKC mentioned as a possibility?

    Chaffee had an unusually large freight depot for a town of its size, but I believe the Sanborn maps that I've reviewed showed it to be wood frame construction, not the brick/joisted masonry type of construction. However, the only photos I've ever seen of it were its remnants after the 1940 tornado. So, definitely not Chaffee.

    I say all of that to say this, are we overlooking other smaller cities which were division points or key junctions outside of Sapulpa and Muskogee and such?

    I'm not sure I've seen Memphis or Birmingham ruled out?

    Best Regards,
     
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  4. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Maybe Hugo, OK.
     
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  5. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Been ruled out on the Facebook group.
     
  6. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Keith,

    What kind of a date do you think that is?

    I've seen quite a bit of the territories, but can't think of anything that resembles that building.
     
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  7. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    My guess is up to 1935.

    That is based on three things:

    1) I it looks like a picture that was made on an opaline glass plate.
    2) The freight car in the background.
    3) The bicycle.

    I have an uncle that bought the second oldest photography studio in Cape Girardeau, and there were a lot of glass plate photos in the building.

    I have some, and they have the same kind of spots and lack of sharpness due to degradation of the media because of exposure to humidity.
     
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  8. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Ok, the quiz is over Garland, KS.
     
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  9. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Keith,

    I don't think you will find much on that building.

    I got a reply from a friend that worked there in 1978. I remember cutting through there on my way from Ft. Scott. I remember, hearing the story about that building, it was not used much, I wanna say the line change in that area made a difference in the plan for it.

    I have other emails out, we'll see what I get back. All these are railroad people who worked in the area. So they should know, some information.
     
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  10. gna

    gna Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I am in Birmingham, visiting my brother, and did some research here.

    Not Birmingham, but I see the mystery is solved.
     
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  11. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    We need some folks that know more about rail traffic around Garland.

    The building looks like it's a ghost town, which would lead to what my friend said. I got one more reply, but am waiting for someone who knows more.

    I have email's off to lots of Frisco people.
     
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  12. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    William,

    That's awesome that you can nail it down!

    EDIT: Looking at maps I cannot find any evidence at all, not even remnants of a foundation?
     
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  13. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I checked the Northern Division Bridge and Building (B&B) record book and Garland, KS had the following.

    20' x 40'-6" depot, built 1880
    3' x 4' depot privy
    8' x 10' coal house
    10' x 12'-7" section tool house
    stock pen with 3 coral pens, 1 alley, 1 chute

    I thought that it might be Oklahoma City, but no.

    https://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/magazines/fem_1929_12/fem_1929_12_16.pdf

    I also thought that Pensacola might be a possibility, and again no.

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?attachments/pensacola-fla-1923-b-jpg.5017/
     
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  14. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    See if you can expand the search in the area of Garland I am trying to get the photograph to Tom Adams to see what he knows.

    I can recall thinking what would a building like that be doing out there anyway?

    The friend I talked to thought the same thing.

    I am wondering what the use of a building like that would be?
     
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  15. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Jonesboro Arkansas was set up like this, but I think the one in this photo is a larger structure.
     
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