The 4200 Giant 2-8-2s

Discussion in '2-8-2 Mikado' started by frisco1522, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Supporter

    I have attached a couple of pdf files, which contain my thoughts about the 4200's being (arguably) the best-suited, main-line, freight locomotive on the Frisco's roster. Comments are most welcome.

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  2. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Supporter

    Karl - Excellent, thanks.

    This ought to be published in The Meteor.

  3. Frisco1515

    Frisco1515 Frisco1515

    Karl, These stats on the 4200s are very interesting and I'm eager to see what others think, but I know one man who might have agreed with you. My Uncle was the night foreman at the Ft. Scott roundhouse back in the days of steam, and when the KCS bought those big 2-10-4s from Lima my Uncle said to my Dad, "they just should have bought some 4200s". This may have been partly related to the fact that the KCS had to lay much heavier rail to support the big Limas, or so I was told. Fred
  4. John Sanders

    John Sanders Member

    Great information. I live about 1/4 mile from the Pearson Creek bridge south east of Springfield. That bridge and the James River bridge were upgraded/rebuilt in 1930...seemingly to accommodate the 4200s. I have not seen records supporting this notion, but I believe the rebuilding must be related.
    John Sanders
    Springfield, MO
  5. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Supporter

    John, it is possible your hunch is correct, but the Frisco was running the Spot Class engines between Springfield and Thayer before the 4200's arrived. The Cooper's rating for the 2-10-2's was E69.4; the 4200's were rated at E65.8.
  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Supporter


    I enjoy your recollections about Ft Scott during the days of steam. I think that the 4200's were not given the accolades that they were due. I would have loved to have listened to one leave Ft Scott, southbound or lift a train up Lenexa Hill.

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