SLSF 91, alte Frisco 4-4-0

Discussion in '4-4-0 American' started by meteor910, Jun 15, 2013.

  1. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I was looking through all my Arthur Johnson pics last night for old times sake and ran across this one. This is not one of Art's - has no ID on it, and I have no idea where I got it, probably at a swap meet.

    Thought those of you who model the old Frisco might enjoy it.

    Ken
     

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  2. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Wonder if that could have been one of those engines that was continually refurbished and re-numbered into the 180's series and lasted into the diesel era? I'd guess from the looks of the freight car the photo is ca. WW I. Might be too old for the 180 series??

    Tom G.
     
  3. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Why do you do this to me? I have to have this engine! For Pete's sake, man. First it was my Frisco #151 and now I'm suddenly obsessing over #91. Lucky for me I have a spare IHC Old time 4-4-0 to kitbash and the experience to add DCC and sound. Here we go again! Thanks for posting. I think:)
     
  4. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Frisco 91, nee 41, nee A&O 4, did not survive the mass extinctions of 1914-1915, and was scrapped Aug 1915.
     
  5. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim -

    The devil made me do it! :)
     
  6. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Here is the loco diagram for SLSF 91. This is from the 1904 Frisco locomotive diagram book.

    Kinda primitive, but it gives dimensions for Jim's new kitbash project!

    Ken
     

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  7. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thank you. I'm going to get as close as I can using what I have to start with. I need to find a stack and decent headlight casting. I'll post my progress when this gets off the ground.
     
  8. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim - I'm sure you have seen the Vollrath pic of SLSF 151 used for your kitbash. Have you seen the loco diagram of 151? If not, I have it if you want me to post it.

    Ken
     
  9. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I do not believe that I do. I would appreciate it if you would post it. I love those old 4-4-0s.
     
  10. Who is A&O RR?
     
  11. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Here she be. SLSF 151 from the 1904 Frisco loco diagram book.

    Ken
     

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  12. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thank you. That's very kind.
     
  13. SteveM

    SteveM Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Would that be the line from Rogers, Arkansas to Grove, Oklahoma? It was an independent line that Frisco bought but soon shortened into the Bentonville Branch. Early 1900s. I don't think I've ever seen a locomotive roster.
     
  14. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    When I was looking at my diagrams, and I saw the A&O #4, those were my thoughts, too. As I looked through some of early locomotive records, I could only find the reference to the A&O on the diagram. All the other records, pointed to the previous number, 47, but I none of the records noted anything about the A&O. Since the A&O was built circa 1898-1900, that leaves 29 years of the locomotive's life for which we cannot account. This gap, no doubt, explains the lack of any builder-related information on the loco diagram.

    Please see http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?291-Forms-amp-Documents&highlight=stockton post #14 & #15 for some info on the A&O
     
  15. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Old thread but it's become more relevant for me. I've been wanting to model the old #91 for a while and now I'm getting motivated to begin the project. I'll be using a Rivarossi 4-4-0 old timer which is a tad over scale for for an old wood burner but will be a fair candidate for this loco project as the #91 appears to be a slightly larger type of loco. I've got some irons in the fire right now but I'll get this going sooner than later. Here's a pic of what I'm working with.
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  16. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    This should be very interesting to watch. You certainly have your work cut out pushing ahead.
    both the cab and boiler need extensive mods, just to get close, but I have seen you in action.
    looking forward to this project.
     

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