SL-SF RS-1 101 Questions and Details

Discussion in 'RS1' started by gjslsffan, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Got a RS 1 from Ken Wulfert and doing a little detailing job. I gots questions. I know about as much about Alco D/E locos as Alco steam locos.
    Remembering the F was on the long hood end. What is that right in front of the cab on the walkway? Whatever it is they modified the handrails for it. (see attachment) a ways down the page in the middle of page. Looks to me like some air brake valve mods.
    Besides the exhaust extentions, MU connections, horn, re-rail frogs, and that box looking thing in front of the cab, what other AT&N/SLSF mods were done to the RS 1's?

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  2. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The Frisco RS-1's were equipped with a 14-EL brake schedule, and you're correct that the appurtenances, which are ahead of the cab are related brake equipment, i.e., a Number 6-DKR Distributing Valve or similar type valve.

    I think that a pair of Pyle National class lamps, cab beacon, and window shades would be in order. This will be a trickier modification, but during the summer, it was common to see the RS-1's with their "top hatch" propped open.

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  3. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Karl,
    Yea those class lamps really stick out.
    And that beacon just looks like a Silverfish dome.
    The shades will be done as well.
    I haven't found any really good detail shots yet.
    I have an idea how to do the valve though.
     
  4. Larry F.

    Larry F. Member

    If you would like to see something really rare go to rr-fallen flags (under SL-SF): there are shots of 103 and 104 mu'd and it also shows what Karl was referring to about the topside vent doors. Larry F.
     
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  5. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Larry.
    I saw that, the only image I have seen with an RS 1 mu'ed.
    Anyway, I got the stack modified, and the horn installed used brass tubing I chucked up in the lathe and belled the end then ground down, drilled out the bottom of a Cal-Scale 190-665 Leslie RS5R24 horn to fit .030 brass wire bent to install where the original blat horn was. It is sagging a bit but will get it straight when it gets painted a glued on.
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    Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
     
  6. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Made a bit of progress in the last few days on this RS 1. I managed to drill an .028 hole down the middle of the handrail stantion where the brake valve mods were done, that was a challenge. I installed the brake valves I cobbled together and the step and covers (modified Cannon parts) for same too. I also bent the handrail for that handrail modification painted installed, it press fit into the original stantion so that worked so far. I didn't paint the valves Grey so they would be seen better. Understand locomotives go thru 92 day, and 1,2,3 year air maintenance and changes. 3 year air's get many components changed out whether any failures or not, most of the time the rebuilt valves were painted Grey, so that is why, I noticed there were grey valves in a few pictures.
    Next. I have had these Alco brake chain guides (custom finishes H-147) in my parts drawer for probably 25 years, glad to put them to used, had to drill out all of them to get the chain thru them. I am pondering how or even if I will do the MU receptacles on the end handrails. I have decided to not do the beacon atop the cab, there are a lot of images that show them without that particular device. It will also get a dose of weathering.
    Any a few progress photos.

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  7. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    WOW, TOM, That is pretty classy looking! Of Course it;s classy - It's Frisco!
    Seriously, very nice work.
     
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  8. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Sherrel!
    I still gotta get some class lights (cal scale #280) Sunshades and a couple other details on it but coming along :)
     
  9. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom, a top-notch job as we have come to expect. At some point in time, after February 28, 2017, I will have more time to try my hand at detailing like that but I will have a long way to go to get to your level.

    I will have an RS-1 on the River Division and your work is an inspiration.
     
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  10. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Looking great, Tom. I have several undecorated Atlas/Kato RS-1's on hand... and a pair of undecorated Atlas/China "Gold" (LokSound) equipped RS-1's that arrived last month (after being reserved for over a year). "One of these days" some of my undec RS-1's will become Frisco, and some will become KC&G.

    All fer now!
     
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  11. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The old girl looks good Tom. Nice! Love the tall stack.

    FYI, I have four sets of Details West NB-156 Number Boards for Alco switchers. The diagram in the pack shows them on a yard switcher, but they look like the ones used on the ends of Alco road switchers as well, aka RS-1, RS-2, RS-3. Frisco, nor AT&N, used them on the RS-1's, but SLSF did use them on the RS-2. You want them?

    Ken
     
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  12. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Beautiful modeling. Love the chains! I'm a steam guy but I'm hooked on the sounds that these early diesels had.
     
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  13. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Guys for the comments, I appreciate it.

    Some more progress photos. Got the shades on used ho scale 3.5ft X 1.5ft pieces of plain paper painted with Floquil Grime, folded and glued with canopy glue to the cab sides, they are quite robust and take the paint well. It was interesting to see how far off-set the cab windows are, didn't notice it till I got the sades on. Also fabricated the mu connections using Styrene and a couple details west parts.
    I tried to match the photos as best I could, boy the way those things stuck out on the walkways I bet a few people barked their shin's good on them.
    I am waiting on the Cal-Scale #280 class marker lamps to come in now.
    The KD 58 couplers were too long IMHO, so I went with KD#43's instead, they look a little more tucked in to me.
    Ken- Let me check my stock I may already have a few.

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  14. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Is it DCC with sound?
     
  15. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Hi Jim,
    Nosir old school DC, like me lol. I cant figure out how to even get the shell off without tearing something up :confused:
     
  16. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    To remove the shell, remove the coupler boxes and then release the tabs on the inside of the underside of the frame by the trucks front and rear. The shell and walkways will come off as a unit.
     
  17. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Keith,
    The under-frame and walkways are metal (I've drilled into both), and appear to be one piece. hood, cab, handrails plastic.
     
  18. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Okay, it is an much older model and the hood/cab come off but require disconnecting the handrails.
     
  19. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom .... If you do not object, I would like to post a link to this thread on the ModelRailroadForums in the "Coffee Shop" thread.
    I like to share Frisco "stuff" with them. Better yet - It's your build - maybe you want to post it?
     
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  20. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Wonderful work Tom. The old "101 girl" will really strut her stuff now!

    K
     

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