S.A. & A.P. 30' Flat Cars

Discussion in 'Flatcars' started by SAFN SAAP, Jun 26, 2012.


    SAFN SAAP Member

    I put another coat of Solvaset on about an hour ago, as one or two decals needed a little extra. I'll be working on the weathering later this afternoon, early evening. In the interim, I'm working on the new Fredericksburg Jct depot building. New and improved, with tons of details. I'll post up more in that thread.

  2. renapper

    renapper Passed away March 8, 2013

    Where are those articles for The Meteor you promised me?

    SAFN SAAP Member


    I thought I PM'd you regarding instructions and format so that I do the articles properly. Did I not do that? Please forward me that information so I can get you an article on how to do the LaBelle flat cars. Then I'll do the AMB depot kit.

    Sorry for any confusion.

  4. renapper

    renapper Passed away March 8, 2013

    I just posted instructions on Jim James thread above Ctreating Meteor Articles.
  5. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Very nicely done, sir. I'll echo Bill's thoughts; the truss rods do look great. This makes for a very nice detail on rolling stock that those of us modeling later eras don't get to enjoy!

    This thread is a great work-in-progress thread, and one that I'll probably refer back to quite often.

    Best Regards,
  6. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    My list of "must haves" just grew! I just gotta have a flatty.

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Coming to the Zalma Branch near you...

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Thanks Y'all for the compliments. I will be detailing Flat 522 this afternoon. Hopefully I do the video correctly for y'all.
  9. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Great work Manny,
    Looking forward to the video :)
    Tom Holley

    SAFN SAAP Member

    I just did the weathering and video. I'm uploading the video right now and will put it together and post shortly.

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Here is the video on how to weather (my preference) a railroad car. This is meant only as a guide. It is not the only way to do it. It is what I have experience with. I have yet to branch out into chalks and pastels. I hope this turned out okay. Enjoy!
    Video is 20 minutes long.

    Weathering S.A. & A.P. Flat Car 522

    SAFN SAAP Member

    S.A. & A.P. 522 is finished. After the video I added the brake wheel, painted, and weathered. She's road ready. Onto the next: another S.A. & A.P. flat, and a true Frisco road: 36' Orange & Northwestern R.R. flat.

    Here we go!



    Sisters' 504 & 522

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  13. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Manny, the cars look really nice. I didn't know, is the decks real wood, or? One thing, you take far better photos than movies. Course even Clint Eastwood started somewhere. The play by play was still very good.
    William Jackson

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Hey William,

    LOL...Yeah, I know. I do take good videos, but that was done through my digital camera. I should have put a marker down where the camera was focused, but I messed up a little. I will get a better camera soon since that one is on its way out. It is having difficulties focusing.

    The car is completely wood. Only the brake rigging and brake wheel assembly is plastic. The truss rods are Phosphorus Bronze, and the bolsters are white metal. The decking is all wood. That is why is works so well with the weathering agents. On plastic, I'm sure that washes will work, along with chalks and pastels.

    Was the movie that bad that you couldn't get the gist?

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Aw, c'mon. What does Clint Eastwood have that I don't? Okay, maybe a little Good, Bad, and the Ugly music, and the sinus' could be spared but it's not that bad.
  16. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Hey Manny its all good:DI was going to ask how that stuff worked on plastic. You ever tried air brushing it on plastic, or resin? I have a resin loading dock I would like to weather and make look old.
    But your cars look great
    Tom Holley|-||-|

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Hey Tom,

    Thanks for the compliments. As for Dr. Ben's stuff, I've heard from him that it has been airbrushed before. I haven't tried it on plastic yet, but I will look into it and get back to you on it.

  18. renapper

    renapper Passed away March 8, 2013

    I enjoyed the video and your technique. Would you please list your weathering stains, and where you can purchase them?

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Hello Richard,

    Thank you for the compliments Richard. I'll do a much better video next time. I can only get better at it. Do you know if anything like this will be done at the Convention in September? I will start working on the Meteor Article later today.

    As for the stains, absolutely! The name of the company is DebenLLC. The proprietors are Richard and Debbie Bendever. Their web site is: DebenLLC. I set that up as a link and you can save it to your favorites. Here are pictures off his web site of the stains and weathering pigments that I use(d). For best pricing, order directly through them. Please let them know that Manny in San Antonio referred you.


    Used on the S.A. & A.P. cars:

    DBZ1181.jpg DBZ1161.jpg

    Other DebenLLC pigments, stains, washes that I have:

    DBZ1079.jpg DBZ1078.jpg DBZ1077.jpg
  20. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Hay Manny, yes I got the gist! I have tried to shoot videos before with a handheld. I don't think it's possible. Just a little raz, believe me I apriciate your effort. I wouldn't be able to even hold the camera for 20 minutes. I do take better photos than videos.
    William Jackson

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