Quanah, Acme and Pacific (QA&P) - West Texas - Fictitious Model Railroad Layout Agriculture Industry

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  1. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    What kit is that neat little yellow freight station in the first picture? And the little paint peeling store in the last two, next to the Revell farmhouse.
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  2. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    Hi Patrick,

    The freight station is a Campbell Scale Models kit. I bought it from David Gaines already built. He did a nice job on it.

    The second structure...are you talking about the one with a covered porch to the left of the farm house ?
  3. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    Yes. It looks like a lot of the little country stores that used to be at every gravel Road crossroads when I was a kid.
  4. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    I hadn't thought of that. It's actually a paper building that I downloaded, printed and built. If you want a link to it I can try to find it. I don't remember where I got it but might be able to find it.
  5. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    If the attachment works, here's that paper printed structure.


    Attached Files:

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  6. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    That's it. Thanks, Andre. Paper structures work ok for background locations. Actually, I've seen paper structures that you couldn't tell were paper. Mine aren't that good, so I use them for background where you can't really tell.
  7. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    Thanks. I’m unable to print at this time. Although being paper printed, it’s probably done from a photograph, which accounts for that ultra realistic peeling paint weathering
  8. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    The biggest lack (IMHO) with photo printed paper structures is they need depth. That is, the windows need to be cut out, a piece of acetate glued to the back of the structure, then the window print taped on top of that. That gives depth and much needed reflections. Also edges and roof lines need attention. Plus, they need small details added to bring aid giving life to them. I have seen printed photo structures so done that look simply incredible. Done thus, they can exceed realism compared to almost any painted/weathered plastic/whatever structure.

    Of course, what I just mentioned adds a lot to the assembly time and cost because of 3 dimensional details... but I think the results can be well worth it. I'm seriously thinking about using several such printed/assembled structures.

    Oh, and here's an engine house that was hastily thrown together and placed on the layout. Even though a "quickie" I think the overall effect is effective. I'm seriously considering printing out another and doing the things I mention above.

  9. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    You are absolutely correct. For example, when printing a paper structure, most of it needs to be printed twice. You can cut out the door frame and window frames (just the frames--not the door and windows) from one printed set and glue them over the main flat piece that contains the doors and windows.

    for porches and overhangs, I use actual wood columns or piers, not the paper ones supplied. The same with stairs and steps.

    The other huge thing is to brace the heck out of the inside of every flat surface. I spend tons of time gluing popsicle sticks to the inside of everything. They are glued horizontally and vertically to ensure that the structural pieces stay flat. After the building is complete, mask off the windows and dullcoat the entire thing. If it's printed on an inkjet, it needs the protection. If it's printed on a color laser printer, it will be shiny, and that needs to be remedied.

    The structures in the attached photos are paper. The little country grocery store had quite a few details added. The front sign that says Tanner's Food Market was created in Photoshop and added to the front (the Tanners are neighbors who used to own the local grocery store...back when this town had a grocery store).

    The garage is one that I made up myself. There was a really stone texture online that I downloaded and saved. We only have a black and white printer. The color stuff was printed by a friend. But this stone texture I played with in Photoshop and turned it into a black and white image. I measured the complete distance of all four walls and printed that as one piece. I used art pens to color it like stone. Then cutouts were made for doors and Tichy doors were installed.

    Finally, the roof gables were cut out of scribed siding that looks like clapboard, both front and back, and painted. The roof is cardstock. The entire building cost about $5 with the doors and siding.

    Again, these are more like background structures that are three feet or so from where you stand and view the layout. All of the paper structures I have were free downloads.

    Final note: some of them are from the UK and are OO scale. The grocery store was, and had to be printed at the correct percentage of the original to get into HO. Many are PDF's that can be size-adjusted to print in 1/87. You just have to read what the individual file says and go from there.

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  10. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    Thanks, again, to David Gaines, for providing a building that fits perfectly in the one remaining space in our small downtown scene. The paint and glue are literally still drying. It will get a little weathering and maybe a sign or two. I haven't decided whether to add a third trim color on the front. I'm leaning towards leaving it two colors. I may make another sign like the Zeke's Place sign that extends out from the front of the building. It took me forever to solder that one together (soldering is not my forte), but it fits the style of our town.

    Question: do any of you know when they started doing tar and gravel flat roofs? The era of our layout is 1940's-1950's, and that can be stretched some both directions.

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  11. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    OK, here's what the good ole' internet says regarding flat commercial roofs:

    Tar and gravel roofs have both a rich history and a practical job in today's roofing scene. These roofs first appeared in the early 20th century and quickly became popular for commercial buildings because of their durability and cost-effectiveness.

    Maybe the roof will have tar and gravel.
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  12. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    Have another structure about done, but there's not really any place to put it on the layout. It has a dock high freight door on one side (team track or industry siding, most likely) and a ground level freight door on the opposite side. It would be a good replacement for the machine shop on the layout, except there's no way to have it next to the track. And a machine shop this size probably wouldn't do any rail business.

    It could be another freight forwarding company that receives LCL loads and sends them out via truck, but there's still not much place to put it.

    Photos of both are attached.

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  13. davidgaines

    davidgaines Member

    Those DPM kits made up nicely. Does your wife know you build models on her quilting cutting board? ;)

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  14. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    It's an old one she gave me after she wore it out:ROFLMAO:. One of her best friends then gave me a rotary cutter, which I use constantly for cutting styrene and everything else. She's away at a quilting retreat right now.
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  15. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    This may be where the latest DPM building goes on the layout. I'm once again scratching my head regarding the bizarre hodge podge of buildings on our layout. Old wood buildings next to brick buildings...maybe it's ok, but it doesn't look quite right.

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  16. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    I think if you look hard enough, you could find an example of these types of buildings intermingling.

    As for what type of business to make it, I've seen some similar type buildings in Joplin, MO and Pittsburg, KS that were served by the Frisco. I think one was a printing company and the other was an early fuel/oil dealer. I can do some digging if you wanted to pursue that idea further.
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  17. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Looks good Paul.
    I would like to see a loading dock there too, maybe just a small one. Maybe a coffin company, "Feet First Caskets"
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  18. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    The printing company might be interesting. I was in the printing business for more than 25 years.
    If I move the building to the right a little, there might still be room for a small dock on the back and still have a truck back up to the front.

    On a brick building built in the '30's or '40's, would the dock be concrete? Would there be a ramp down to ground level or just a small dock on the back of the building for loading and unloading freight cars?
  19. skyraider

    skyraider Member

    Forgot to put this in both of your replies: thanks for the ideas to both Ethan and Tom!!!!!!!!!
  20. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Paul, most likely would have been wood and there would possibly be steps but no need for a ramp; goods/material entered or exited at rail car or truck floor height.
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