North Clinton Interlocking Tower

Discussion in 'Interlocking Towers & Facilities' started by Frisco2008, Dec 6, 2009.

  1. Frisco2008

    Frisco2008 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The February page of 2010 MKT Historical Society calendar shows a picture of "Katy's North Clinton, MO interlocking tower with the SLSF. View looking north from the Frisco's yard, circa 1953. -Donald R. Kaiser photo"

    Glenn in Tulsa
     
  2. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The MKT calender shot is nice. I posted a photo taken from this tower looking south over the Clinton Yard. Don Kaiser shot this one too and was kind enough to share it with me.

    Don't know if this link will work but here goes:

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=6415&d=1234639654

    If the link doesn't work you may do a search for "Photo of Clinton, MO Frisco yard"
     
  3. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    That's a beaut...the more I see photos, track plans, etc. the more I think that Clinton is the ideal LDE for the aspiring Frisco modeler, especially if one wants to model any sort of yard.

    Best Regards,
     
  4. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    North Clinton Tower

    Found this photo while looking for some other stuff. Photo is by Donald Kaiser, 1950's era. Looking NW towards the MKT crossing. Taken from the NW edge of the Clinton Yard. In the distanceThe tower had been abandoned by the time this photo was taken. Not sure if the coal house on the right side of the photo belongs to the Frisco or the MKT. The tower was built by the MKT to their standard design.

    Nice view of the crossing gate at the MKT/Frisco crossing. It is either new or freshly painted. I wonder if this would have been erected after the tower closed?

    Dale Rush
    Carthage, MO
     

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  5. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: North Clinton Tower

    The electrically locked gate was placed after the tower was closed. Note the "duck under" for motor cars.
     
  6. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: North Clinton Tower

    Thanks Karl, that is what I thought, but didn't know for sure.

    A "duck under" for motor cars! I guess this would be both a convenience thing and way not to trip the signal circuits on the Katy just to get a motorcar across the junction? I learn something new on here almost every day. I wonder how many times my Grandpa passed under that. He worked out of Clinton on a section gang for several years after the Blairstown section gang was shut down.

    I plan on building a couple of those gates for my N scale layout. Need them at Harrisonville and Clinton. I want them to be working gates, or at least swinging gates, so I can work them into my operations. Probably will have to build them out of brass wire to be durable enough to handle. Will certainly be a test of my soldering skills.

    Dale
     
  7. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: North Clinton Tower

    So that's the purpose of those things. I always thought it odd when I'd see the one at Delta, MO by the SSW/MoP crossing.

    Best Regards,
     
  8. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: North Clinton Tower

    Soooo, I got wonderin', was the tower wood-framed? From the various photos posted, it seems that it could be.
     
  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: North Clinton Tower

    The North Clinton tower and the South Clinton tower, which is extant, were cast-in-place concrete.
     
  10. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: North Clinton Tower

    Wow, that was quick! Cast in place concrete was my second choice, with the form boards leaving the impressions, hence my query. It could make building a model of one a bit of an issue; not a big one, but an issue nevertheless.
     
  11. Rancho Bob

    Rancho Bob Member

    The shape of the tower and configuration of the cast pilasters into the side panels almost makes this look like they cast the sides on the ground on what we call a "casting bed"...a single form on a throw away slab that can be used over and over...in this case 4 times. Precast structures of this type are not necessarily post WW2. This looks like a great "cast it yourself" project.
     
  12. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: North Clinton Tower

    I once read of a technique for modeling cast concrete with form boards using styrene. The author cut and filed down the end of a #11 blade to a prototypical form board witdh, and then "scraped" parallel areas where the boards would have been placed.

    I think it may have been a Robert Smaus article in Model Railroader, but it may have been in Mainline Modeler.

    Best Regards,
     
  13. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Anyone know dimensions? Couldn't find any in the tower folder.
     
  14. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    The Northern Division B & B book might have dimensions.
     
  15. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ya still have it on disc? PM me your addres and I'll send you a check for one.
     
  16. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Robert,
    The data for the tower is not included with the Northern Div B&B records, since the Clinton Sub is on the Eastern Div. Secondly, both Clinton towers are MKT structures. Since the South tower is still around, a road trip to Clinton with tape and field book will get the desired info.
    keb
     
  17. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Yea, you're right. But it will have to wait until the temps drop. I still kick my self for not taking photos while making trips to Clinton and Osceola in the early 70's. I don't think much was left in either places, but I do remember the "blowing up" the low water dam in Osceola. We managed even to get seismograph readings of a Frisco local before the dam let go.

    Hidden somewhere in a storage locker I got a lot of shots of the KCS and MP, but few of the Frisco. I came to my senses late in life.
     
  18. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Okay, sometimes Google just doesn't help much. I have seen the tower photos taken in a backyard. Where was this backyard?
     
  19. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I have pictures of the South Clinton Tower on my computer at home. I am on the road but will post said pictures Thursday night.

    In the mean time, the attached image identifies the current location of the tower. It was moved intact to private property supposedly 1 block west of its original position.
     

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  20. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks! I have seen thse photos that you posted earlier. I thought I saw what could be the tower, but since it is located behind a house I couldn't see it from the Street View. I guess I will find out how friendly those folks are later this year.
     

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