Muley Type Cabooses

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  1. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The Muley Type Caboose from the diagram book at:

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/frisco-caboose-diagrams-museum-version.4835/

    SLSF-Muley-Caboose-Diagram.png

    Included data:
    SLSF-Muley-Caboose-Data.png

    It would appear that there was a wide range of car numbers (224-939, non-consecutive).

    Would anyone have?
    • A picture of one that they would care to share of this type?
    • A list of numbers rather than the range?
    • Original build dates?
    • Models built? Apparently a "Frisco1522" named "Don" posted one on Trainboard...hint, hint! ;)

    Thanks,

    -Bob T.
     
  2. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Brad Slone (MMR) has modeled this caboose type. Doug
     
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  3. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Image from All Aboard - Volume 3, Number 12 May, 1989

    SLSF-Muley-Caboose-All Aboard-Volume_3_No12-May-1989.png
     
  4. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Brad Slone’s Model from 2004 Mid-Central Region NMRA. Relatively poor resolution.

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  5. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

  6. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Don's Model (Brass?)
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    Last edited: Jan 7, 2020
  7. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    That is one fine looking caboose!
     
  8. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Evergreen Styrene
     
  9. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Don -
    I'm confused about the Frisco's side door cabooses.

    Your SLSF 811 model is terrific looking! Is that from a kit, or did you scratch it, as you indicated, from Evergreen styrene? If that is the case, knowing you,
    I'm sure the model is pretty close to the prototype the Frisco used. How many of this type did they have on the roster? Road numbers?

    Now to my main question - I have the Hallmark brass side door caboose model. Unpainted, in the box. Nice model. How close to the prototype is that one? How many of those did they roster? Road numbers? I'm debating between finishing it or possibly selling it.

    I'm afraid my collection of caboose diagrams do not go back far enough for these cabs, so I'm in the dark on specifics (not unusual!).

    Thanks - Ken
     
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  10. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The Hallmark brass model is of double-sheathed caboose numbers 27 and 28, later 1127 and 1128. I think there were single-sheathed versions also - one is/was at the Branson Scenic Railroad and had been at the Frisco Museum in Springfield.Doug
     
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  11. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    I think the HMK caboose is undersize but don't have any dwgs of them. I could have measured one at Cuba years ago, but it didn't occur to me. I don't think they are that old. I had a HMK a long time ago but sold it or something. Don't remember.
    811 is scratchbuilt.
     
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  12. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks.
    K
     
  13. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    My old Hallmark. My sister bought it for me. I painted and lettered it. It even has the air whistles on each end platform. Doug 1127.png
     
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  14. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks Doug! Good to hear from you, how 'ya doing?
    Ken
     
  15. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Doing OK. Two years fighting stage 4A bladder cancer and still able to run model trains and build new ones. I'm having way too much fun running AT&N RS-1 109 on locals at the Knoxville club. Our motto: "escaping reality without use of chemicals". Follow Knoxville Area Model Railroaders on Facebook. Best club I ever joined. Doug
     
  16. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Hang in there Doug, keep up the fight. Glad to hear that otherwise, you are still enjoying the good things in life. I still have fond memories of the good things you did with FMIG - thanks for all you did to help mobilize Frisco fans everywhere!

    Caroline and I are doing OK here in Naples, FL. We both have some health issues, but thankfully, nothing too serious. The weather here lately has been spectacularly nice.

    No room in the condo for a layout though. I am maintaining my status of being a railroad modeler, not a model railroader! I spend a lot of time reading - Chernow and McCullough among other authors, and am in my second term on our condo board. We have 178 units, and owners who have at least 178 different opinions on things! Among my readings, I have spent the last six months or so catching up on Larry Thomas' excellent TRRA Hist Society annual publications dealing with the TRRA and the railroads that served St Louis. I was about eight years behind Larry's releases. Only three to go now! They are each very well done.

    Best wishes in your fight. And, best wishes to the family. We just spent Christmas and New Years with Kurt, Jen and our three granddaughters up in Olathe, KS. We had a wonderful time - grandkids are really a blessing!

    Ken
     
  17. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    If possible, could someone please post the Frisco caboose diagram for the side door caboose that Hallmark modeled.
    Thanks.
    K
     
  18. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken, cabooses 27 & 28 are on page 6A of the freight car diagrams book, but no drawing is shown. Here are the major dimensions given:
    Built SL-SF 1938; inside length 35' 4-1/2", width 8' 4-1/8", height 6' 9-1/8"; outside length 40' 2-1/2", width at eaves 9' 8-3/4"; height from rail to eaves 10' 10-1/2", to top of running board 11' 7"; side door width 5' 0" height 6' 3/16"; end door width 23-1/8", height 6' 0"; light weight 48,000; baggage room length 13' 0".

    I received Larry Thomas' excellent issue about the Alton & Southern as a Christmas present from Sandy. I'm learning about all those soft coal mines around east St. Louis. One even had a narrow-gauge railroad.
    Doug
     
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  19. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Doug -
    Thanks.
    I finished the TRRA Madison Yard issue (2014) this week. Guess who is next - The Meteor! (2015). Though, I read much of it already when it issued, but not all. I'm reading them in order. I think Larry, along with other helpers, does a great job on these annual StL area bulletins.
    I asked him to consider an issue on #'s 3 & 4, the Will Rogers. He said maybe sometime in the future, as he had just done the Texas Special and The Meteor issues. I had a lot of fun riding the "Will" back and forth between StL and Rolla back in the MSM days.
    K
     
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