Looking for Oklahoma info

Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by GBJones, May 31, 2022.

  1. GBJones

    GBJones Member

    I'm a long-time railfan (model railroading in my teens, excursion trains as an adult). I joined here in an attempt to find some information about the Frisco line in SE Oklahoma between Clayton and Antlers in Pushmataha County. Apparently there was once a spur line in that area which went to/past a settlement called Crum Creek, named after the nearby creek. The Crum Creek Post Office was only open from February 9, 1916, to July 30, 1927, and the town has now disappeared as far as I can tell. I'm trying to figure out the exact location of this spur in hopes of finding the old Crum Creek settlement. My grandmother was born there and her father (my great-grandfather) died there in 1921.

    Does anyone have a map (circa 1920) of the Clayton - Antlers right-of-way which may show the location of the Crum Creek spur line?
     
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  2. TLeeBlanq

    TLeeBlanq Member

    Do not know if this will help or not, but did find the following> about one mile south of Stanley there is a creek named "crumb" that crosses highway 2 (bridge) in a NNE direction. It meanders same direction for about 4 miles before it peters out. I did not find any settlement of any sort by that name. Information found was from a ODOT Pushmataha "County" map dated 1991. sheet 2. Good Luck
     
  3. TLeeBlanq

    TLeeBlanq Member

    Found it. It was titled "Crum Creek" back when. Type in your search engine 1920's oklahoma railroads and it will come up (map showing various lines).. Crum Creek was located about 1/2 between Stanley and Dunbar. The railroad line shows to go from Grant through Poteau and into Arkansas. Can not discern rail line name, but "Dot" indicates location of Crum Creek.
     
  4. GBJones

    GBJones Member

    Yes, I knew where Crum(b) Creek (the creek) is, but was looking for the exact route of the spur track itself. Did it go east from the main line following the creek toward the Kiamichi River, was it actually a siding which paralleled the main line between Stanley and Dunbar, or did it go west and follow the creek up into the mountains?

    Also, when I search for "1920's Oklahoma Railroads" I get 34 million hits. Which specific source are you looking at?

    Thanks for your help!
     
  5. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Welcome aboard.

    Any idea on if that spur you're looking for served an industry of some sort, or if it was just for the settlement?
     
  6. GBJones

    GBJones Member

    I'm guessing it served the logging industry, since the Crum Creek post office was only in existence for a little over 11 years. If you look closely at this map (Abandoned & Out of Service Railroad Lines Map (frrandp.com)) in the Crum(b) Creek area, it looks like there is a trace former track paralleling the blue (abandoned main) line. That's why I'm wondering if the "spur" is really a siding, perhaps for loading lumber. I'll need to get on the ground to be sure.
     

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