Looking for detail photos of caboose underframe

Discussion in 'Cabooses General' started by r c h, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. paul slavens

    paul slavens Member

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    The pulley is cored, pic is dark but you can see the outline, depth is about half the distance of the pulley. Took a pic of 1249s generator that shows detail of the hanging bracket also. Sheet metal cover is missing from the business end of 1249 generator.
     
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  2. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Paul,
    That's what I was looking for
     
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  3. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    This is very helpful. I thought it was cored based on some photos I've seen, but knowing how deep to drill the hub makes all the difference. Thanks, Paul.
     
  4. Mayhem

    Mayhem Member

    Old post...but any finished pictures?
     
  5. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    Sure thing! The photos from the entire build are here:

    http://www.pbase.com/mecrharris/slsf1237

    In order to save myself some time and effort for the next Frisco caboose project, I've modeled several parts in 3D and made them available for sale through Shapeways.com.

    https://www.shapeways.com/shops/he6agon?section=Caboose&sort=

    I have the parts to do Frisco caboose bodies from 1200-1292. I am working on the battery boxes and the early style generator shown in this thread, but those parts aren't ready yet. All my body kits require a donor Atlas caboose for the trucks and underframe.

    Here's a sample of a Cotton Belt caboose I started building earlier today using my printed parts:

    http://www.pbase.com/mecrharris/image/161693868/large.jpg
     
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  6. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    This all leads to more questions for me and I know very little about Frisco cabooses. I bought an older run of a Oriental brass Frisco caboose. The ladder tops are all wrong, (my bad) and the axle generator is a truck mount generator that was soldered to the center like the large generator that we have talked about in this post. So far so good. All I gotta do is remove the truck mounted generator and install the body mounted one as described earlier in this thread.
    This leaves me with several other questions. Please bear with me, and I will get to the questions soon. This caboose has the round smoke stack on top, and smaller battery/tool boxes on each side, with a long cylindrical appliance pointing downwards on one side.
    So my question is what numbers on the SL-SF were these cabooses in? Also given the ladder tops were all wrong (on the Oriental Brass model).
    Were there any cabooses that remained in the brownish paint that had the roof top walkways and end ladders removed (or modernized) during the final years of independent operation? I guess re-doing the ladder tops would be the easiest, being as if the ladders are removed the end handrails need to be rebuilt too.
    Any advise is a great thing here, not afraid of taking my resistance soldering system to work here, but if I do I want it to be correct.
    Thanks guys for the help and advise.
     
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  7. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom -
    I assume you are talking about one of the Frisco ICC wide-vision cabs??? They came in four batches: first SLSF 200-274 in early 1957 (they came with the fancy GSC caboose trucks). In early 1968, they were renumbered to SLSF 1200-1274. Then a second batch arrived in mid-1968, SLSF 1275-1284. These were very similar to the first group, the most notable being the truck was a more standard , and cheaper, Barber-Bettendorf caboose truck. There also were some subtle window differences. In mid-1969, SLSF 1285-1292 arrived. These cabs were also a bit different in that they had a lower cupola, and also rode on the less expensive truck.
    FYI, if you can find them, Diesel Era had an excellent two article feature on the post-1945 era Frisco cabs. These articles were in 2003, Volume 14-1 and Volume 14-2. Like all Diesel Era's, they appear on eBay now and then.
    My Frisco car diagrams are packed away due to our project in our condo. Perhaps Karl, Keith, or someone, could post the diagrams for the three series of ICC cabs, or they might already be posted somewhere in frisco.org. I seem to remember posting them many years ago.
    K
     
  8. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Ken, for clearing a couple things up for me, this helps a lot.
     
  9. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom -
    I have the Overland ICC cab model, painted and decaled, and it is very good, though I don't like the radio antenna. My only problem with it was that those "FancyDan" trucks would often short on turnouts. All my brass Frisco cabs are Overland, except for one Hallmark - the side door cab. Love 'em.
    K
     
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  10. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Yea I enjoy the OM's I have, but this one is an older run, the loops on the ladder tops are wrong, and if that wasn't enough one of the walkways was soldered on about a scale foot off center. I have found one image with the ladders and walkways removed and in brown paint, so I am remove the botched up ladders and walkways do a little filling, sanding and paint it up brown decal it and let'er roll. The trucks got replaced with plastic IM trucks with journal box plates added. Rolls better and no shorting out.
     
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