NW2 SLSF 261

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  1. patrick

    patrick Guest

    NW2 SLSF 261

    EMD NW2 SLSF 261.

    Frisco file photograph from the Western Historical Manuscript Collection.

    Edit 2/25/2024: General Motors (GM) Electro-Motive Division (EMD) builder's photograph. Photograph at EMD's Plant 3, Cleveland, OH. Photograph dated on or about the shipping date 5/9/1949.
    MKD
     

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  2. bmlhsj

    bmlhsj Member

    Patrick,

    Thank you for posting the photograph of SLSF 261.

    It brought back fond memories of my childhood in Wichita.

    I remember her in black and yellow, later, in Mandarin orange and white.

    It felt like I had lost an old friend when she was finally painted green and renumbered.

    Thanks,

    Brett
     
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  3. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom:

    There are two shops in Wichita that carry train related items:

    (1) Engine House Hobbies in the Boulevard Plaza Shopping Center at 2718 Boulevard Plaza is a full line store that might have something you would want. Although the owner recently died and its future is uncertain.

    (2) Hobbytown USA - I have not been in there for a couple of years, but don't think they have much in the way of trains.

    There is a historical museum downtown that has a lot of equipment but only one Frisco caboose.

    You can also take a short trip east of about 50 miles on US 400 and see the old concrete underpass and then the wooden Frisco water tower at Beaumont.

    There is a hotel there right on the site that has good food.
     
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  4. mvtelegrapher

    mvtelegrapher Member

    The BN switch engine at the Great Plains Transportation Museum in downtown Wichita is ex-Frisco.

    It is the engine assigned to the Wichita yard for many years.

    John Chambers
     
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  5. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Oops!

    I forgot about good-ole NW2 SLSF 261.

    I wish the Historical Society could repaint her into Frisco livery as she wore three paint schemes in here career - as delivered black and yellow with the Roman type face or font lettering, black and yellow with the modern Eureda type face lettering, and of course Mandarin orange and white.

    I have been told that part of the terms of the donation were that he had to stay in the BN paint scheme, which really does not make much sense to me after all of these years.
     
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  6. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    How long ago was the SLSF 261 donated?

    Who would actually raise a fuss, legal-wise, should it get repainted into Frisco colors, preferably black and yellow?

    Loaded questions, to be sure, when it comes to the politics and opinions of folks who operate museums.
     
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  7. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    I am not sure how long ago it was donated, but I would guess in the mid 1980s, shortly after it was retired from service.

    As far as the reason for specifying that it not be repainted, I can only take a guess, so here goes. At the time of the merger/takeover if I remember correctly, it was not well received by the Frisco community in general, especially the employees.

    Also, I think there was a movement on the part of the BN to get equipment repainted as quickly as possible because of that. The locomotive was donated at about or near after the same time period so possibly the last thing the BN would want at that time to see a locomotive immediately repainted back to Frisco livery.

    Thirty years have passed, so if the Great Plains Historical Society wanted to paint it back to its original scheme and would approach the BN they might reconsider.

    Just conjecture on my part.
     
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  8. wmrx

    wmrx MP Trainmaster

    I say go ahead and paint it in Frisco colors.

    As a former superintendent of mine always said, "It's easier to ask for forgiveness, than it is permission." :)
     
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  9. 06archerd

    06archerd Member

    Hello everyone.

    What phase was this NW2?

    Daniel
     
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  10. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Daniel,

    SLSF 261 was a phase V NW2.

    This is per X2200S nomenclature, which is commonly accepted.

    Key spotting features - hood to cab transition is a straight slope with no flat section in front of the cab, and no frame "falsies" at the inner step corners.

    Ken
     
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  11. Rex Beistle

    Rex Beistle Integrity first

    NW2 SLSF 261

    Thank you for the neat photograph of SLSF 261.

    I just obtained a KATO phase II in a terrible patch up ATSF paint job. The black and yellow Frisco paint job looks like what I want for the older time period I prefer.

    Now, to see if there are any decals available.
     
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  12. The SLSF 261 spent most of its 30 year career working at the 29th Street Yard.

    Retired shortly after the merger and donated to Great Planes Transportation Museum (GPTM) in 1984.

    This truly was a Wichita engine.
     
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  13. I say repaint it.

    I am sure BNSF would not care about a ex-Frisco switcher.

    Besides it spent most of its running life as a Frisco engine.

    My vote would be for black and yellow paint.

    Ship it on the Frisco!

    Murphy Jenkins
     
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  14. mopguy

    mopguy Member

    Anyone have rear pictures or placement of the stripes of NW2 261 in the black and yellow paint scheme?

    I purchased the decals from Mask Island for this unit but there were no drawings of the back or front of the locomotive to show placement of the stripes.

    I have a couple of views of the front but not of rear.

    Can anyone help me on this?

    Thanks,

    Larry
     
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  15. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

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  16. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Larry,

    Did not see which variation of the black and yellow scheme you desired.

    In the Archive is a photograph of the rear of sister locomotive SLSF 262 and from the Fallen Flags web site is SLSF 265. Both are sister Electro Motive Division (EMD) NW2 phase V units. The first image is dated April 1956 and the second is dated December 1968. Both are in the variant with full stripes and newer Eurida font lettering. As originally delivered the units would have been in full stripes with extended Roman font lettering.

    Please see the following links. SLSF 262 - http://frisco.org/mainline/wp-conte...nessee-in-April-1956-Rail-Junction-Slides.jpg and SLSF 265 - http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/slsf/slsf265.jpg.

    You may also find an additional photographs helpful of EMD SW7 phase II SLSF 302. It is in the same paint scheme variation dated January 28, 1978 and August 19, 1974.

    Please see http://frisco.org/mainline/wp-conte...-302-at-Tulsa-Oklahoma-on-January-28-1978.jpg and http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1354854.

    At this time, for improved visibility both the left and right sides of each step well and the outer pilot faces are painted yellow. The unit number is painted on the rear battery box to the left of the step to the rear cab door.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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