I am building my late 1940s car fleet and have a few of Joe Pennington's 1937 Duryea underframe kits to upgrade the Red Caboose 1937 AAR square corner box car. Unfortunately, Joe's upgrade kit does not have a diagram with it so I am flying blind on some of the 27 parts. Does anyone have a diagram of the Duryea underframe for boxcars? Thanks in advance for the help. Ship IT on the Frisco! Rick
Rick - While I'm not sure if it's the correct one, Richard Hendrickson has posted a photo (?) copy of a Duryea cushion underframe on the Steam Era Freight Cars group at Yahoo!Groups. It's in the "Files" section. Here's hoping that it's a good starting point! Best Regards,
Hi Rick, Here is a photo of Joe's parts assembled by Joe on an Intermountain (or Red Caboose) 1937 car. I bought this and another Duryea car with steel roof walk and a non Duryea car that Joe had started, but had not finished. The version in the photo had the FFF tan and brown paint and lettering. Joe called this "group C" which had wood roof walk, built Jan 1940, car numbers 162081, 162105, 149069, 128333, 127061, 129801, 147082, 161003, 128864, and 127418. Group C was repainted to red in 1953-55. All four groups (A, B, C, & D) were renumbered to 140000-140039 in early to mid 1955. John Sanders
John, That's IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's what I needed. I knew where most of the parts went but not how the brake rigging was attached. This is great. Thanks. Now I can finish the three 1937 square corner AAR Boxes I have had for about 10 years. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Rick
John Sanders, The parts kit also includes to blanks that look like shims for the coupler boxes and two long tracks that look like they are tracks for the doors. Do you know where these go from your model? Thanks. Rick
The two "L" rails (angles) are mounted to the bottom (top in the photo) of the cross bearers. The brake lever brackets are attached to the angles, not the center sill. There are rivet heads inside one leg of the "L" that corresponds to the attachment to each cross bearer. The real center sill would slide inside of the cross bearers and therefore the brake lever brackets had to be attached to something that did not move. John
Attached is a photo of the painted and lettered car shown with a Duryea underframe in a prior message. Painting and lettering was done by Vince Griesemer for a display for Martin Lofton at Naperville. This display was to promote the Sunshine Mini-Kit containing parts and decals for the conversion of a 1937 AAR car (Red Caboose or Intermountain) to a Frisco home built car. The car needs brake hoses a newer reweigh date and some weathering. John Sanders
