How do you model buildings?

Discussion in 'Structures' started by trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017), Nov 14, 2009.

  1. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I would say pretty much all the base's have been covered, the only thing I would add is that be sure and mount your structure to a solid base. It is very disappointing to spend all the time scatchbuilding a structure only to see the base twist and warp, I normally mount mine to a 3/4 piece of plywood. The other thing is that be sure the scenery surrounds the buildings foundation, so that your structure doesn't seem to float on the ground. One more thought Tichy Train Group has a pretty good line of window and door castings if Grandt Line doesn't offer what you need.

    Brad
     
  2. trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017)

    trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017) Passed away September 22, 2017

    Here's my design plan for my 21"x5"x5" Sulligent Cotton Oil Co. building. I have Cornerstone brick sheets & corrugated roof sheets. Wish me luck. Pics to come. Sulligent Cotton Oil Co. Blueprint.JPG SANY0351.JPG SANY0059.JPG SANY0058.JPG SANY0436.JPG . SANY0433.JPG SANY0061.JPG
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  3. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Good luck to you. All those windows are gonna suck but it should be a mighty fine building when you're finished. Post pics of your progress. I've never scratchbuilt a brick structure so share your techniques along the way.
     
  4. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Brandon--Do you have the Heron Rail Video "Glory Machines, Volume 5 ?" It has some GREAT later 1940's (As well as some 50's and 60's) RR scenes. Kansas City and St. Louis Union Station scenes along with some Memphis scenes of the Frisco and MoPac (Including a MoPac engine being lifted by a derrick). There are several clips of soutern RR's including SR, SAL, CofG, A&WP, ACL, FEC etc. Plus some southern logging and lumber short lines. HOWEVER, there'a a priceless cut taken from the rear coach of the Sunnyland going through Sulligent, AL in the 1940's. It shows the frame depot, street crossings, trackplan with a neat lap siding, signals and so on. It's a great snapshot of a RR through a small town. It actually looks like a model RR scene! Lots of detail for a modeler. FYI.

    Tom G.
     
  5. trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017)

    trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017) Passed away September 22, 2017

    Oh my goodness, Tom. No. But I will get it if I can! Thanks, that is awesome!!!
     
  6. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    I have put many of my modeling articles into The Meteor and , also, Model Railroader Hobbyist on-line magazine. Scratch building with styrene is fun and easy, all you have to do is DO IT.
     
  7. trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017)

    trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017) Passed away September 22, 2017

    Quick questions: I assume I should tediously cut out the openings for doors and windows with a hobby knife and cut along the grooves (grout lines) where possible? Also, the building will be longer than one sheet of brick. How can I mask the seams? I hope I remember to log my hours. Here are examples of the material I have for the walls and roof. [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  8. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Wow, I am really late to this party. So this might be way too late, but maybe for future projects one could also look at - http://www.monstermodelworks.com/

    They say that they can do custom cutting. But at what price??????
     
  9. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    A downspout could hide a seam or modeling putting, sanding and weathering also will go a long way towards hiding a seam. Get a needle file set to help shape those arched windows using the curved file.
     
  10. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Brandon -
    Are you planning on overlaying the bricks onto styrene or some other backing?

    If so, I've always been a fan of the John Nehrich "scribe and snap" process:

    (1) Mark out the walls, including window openings, on the styrene sub-wall.
    (2) As the attached illustration shows, you can mark the window openings so that you remember to discard them. Anywhere you see a line...scribe with a sharp razor blade such as the XActo #11 blade. Once you've made several passes, simply snap the styrene.
    (3) In this example, you'd have 9 pieces of the "sub-wall" left. Use a plastic cement of some sort to glue them back together; it may take some bracing.
    (4) Glue this reassmbled sub-wall onto your brickwork. Then, it's simply a matter of cutting out the window opening to size and shaping up the opening with the needle file that Jim mentioned.

    Jim's right on for hiding the seams. If I had a quarter for every brick seam that I've hidden behind a nice, robust downspout, I could probably upgrade to a nice DCC system.

    Best Regards,
     

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  11. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    What are you styrene modelers using for "cement" now that Tenax7R isn't available any more?

    Thanks, Tom
     
  12. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Brandon--Here's a link to the Heron video: https://www.ribbonrail.com/HerronRa...ducts_id=33&osCsid=manqj8m3rod0u41j8d466i5t10

    TG

    Edit: Brandon (and others) here's a link to another video you might be interested in. It's Green Frog's "Passenger Trains Of The 60's." The original three VHS tapes are now combined on one DVD at a GREAT price! There are a WHOLE LOT of passenger trains in the south including SR, ACL, SCL etc. Including a couple of dozen Frisco run-bys. KC-Florida Special, Sunnyland, Southland. FYI. http://www.greenfrog.com/passtrain60s_all3_dvd.shtml
     
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  13. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Seriously Tenax is gone?? I mean, C'mon man. That was the last really good styrene glue for me. I dont like the MEK, it smells and is so bad for us all without a bathroom vent going all day and night.
    I have recently tried Tamiya (spell) glues, and although I dont think they rise to the Tenax level, there is a thick and thin option for the liquid glues. That Tenax glue has always worked good for me.
    Tom Holley
     
  14. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I use CA for everything including styrene, wood, metal and resin kits but super glue isn't for everyone. I'm just crazy like that.
     
  15. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    I had used Testors before Tenax came along. I guess I'll go back to Testors when my stash of Tenax runs out.

    TG
     
  16. trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017)

    trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017) Passed away September 22, 2017

    After exactly 4 hrs. & 28 minutes (not counting a 30 minute break) logged tonight, ALL of the doors and windows of the front wall of the Sulligent Cotton Oil Co. are OPEN!!!!!!!!!! My process? Select a starting point, count the brick rows and columns, depend on good eyesight and good lighting, take a #11 exacto knife, use the grout lines as an aid, and slowly but surely, scribe, increasing pressure each time, then gently pop out the pieces and there you have it... the 19.75" x 4" front wall of the Sulligent Cotton Oil Co. The proof is in the pics. The wall was (2) seperate 9 7/8" x 4" Walthers Cornerstone brick sheets at 5pm. This is what they looked like at 9:58pm. Let me know what you think. Keep in mind that I've never done anything like this before. I almost put a window where there should't be one. Outside of that error I'm pleased with the result.
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  17. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Brandon, I think you've got what it takes. Looking good so far. Are you going to arch the windows and doors? How many Xacto blades did you go through so far?:)
     
  18. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Make that two of us. Frankly I never seemed to run out of Testors, so I've just always stuck with that. It's served my purposes quite well.

    Best Regards,
     
  19. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    "Stuck with that", You're killin' me, Chris!
     
  20. trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017)

    trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017) Passed away September 22, 2017

    Thank you, Jim. Yes, I'm going to arch the doors and windows. Any reason I can't do that with an Xacto knife? I don't see why not. I cut out all of the doors and windows for the front wall with one blade... not by choice... I just didn't have any extras left.
     

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