GP35 (Torpedo Boat) Modification

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  1. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Man, I am jonesing for some AH 191's
    Tom Holley
     
  2. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I don't know what is going on with Details West. Not only their AH-191 (the Frisco's beloved five chime Leslie 3-2), but several other of their popular brass castings are missing in action.

    I recently ordered a "refill" on their AH-174, a Wabco single chime horn used on F-units and switchers, and instead of the nice brass castings they used to be, I received a set of them that were white metal castings. Not nearly as nice and crisp as the brass versions. I hope that is not a sign of the future!

    Ken
     
  3. Rancho Bob

    Rancho Bob Member

    1000 pardons....our Treasurer failed to update the CC information for our webhost so....our site is down until he does it. I'll let you all know when SCL Modeler is available again.

    ABD
    ACL & SAL HS
     
  4. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Buck - FYI, I was able to download SCLM #18 last night perfectly.

    As you noted, a huge amount of GP35 info is in this issue.

    Ken
     
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  5. Rancho Bob

    Rancho Bob Member

    Ken

    Wonderful...everyone please enjoy. All is fixed. BTW...the article is written by noted modeler / author Jim Six.

    Buck
     
  6. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks for the additional info in the SCL Article, Great info source.

    |-||-|Been working on these chassis's for a few days now. Started with the most overexposed photos I could find to show just a inkling of what was down there. turns out it was pretty busy on the fronts and rears of the fuel tanks. The photos I had access to, do not show anything clearly enough to make out what each pipe or component would be with any real degree of certainty. But we know that there were fuel vents, more than likely one on each side because of the fuel tank modifications and the saddle type effect it had. and the air box drains, one on each side, the sump drain. And It almost looks like spitter valves were on the fuel tanks ends (rear both sides) where the air reservoir condensation would spit onto the ground, like on other units. Got the brake cylinder piping bent and installed and a speed recorder drive on the Fireman's side front axle.
    Parts used include but not limited to;
    Evergreen
    3/16 angle Styrene plastic for fuel tank mods

    Archer decal transfers
    #6 for fuel tank welds

    Detail Associates
    2809, truck brake cyl air lines good luck trying to find these.
    2806 truck journal box sloped w pedestal liners
    2805 truck journal box square w pedestal liners
    Ended up making a jig to bend enough of the 2809 wire to do all three.

    Details West
    AF 154 air dryer/Filter modified, cut top off see photos
    BE 127 Bell there is one factory but I like these
    AP 242 Air tank details and piping used parts of the kit
    SR 284 speed recorder
    DP 305 Drain and vent pipes used part of this kit too.
    Thanks for looking|-||-|
    Tom Holley
     

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  7. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Neat Tom. These guys are going to be really nice! Even the Overland model does not have all the detail you are adding.

    Ken
     
  8. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Ken,
    It is a fun project, But I dont like building 3-4 at a time too much to keep strait. I am only doing it once:D Plowing thru the parts though.
    Now while the paint is drying on the chassis, Think a little more to do for the shells. Pin lifters and MU stuff, still a long ways to go.
    I am going to go crank up that old Harley and go for a ride, while it is still nice outside..
    Thanks Ken
    Tom Holley
     
  9. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Walthers has the Details West AH 191 horns in stock, hurry while they last!!
    Tom Holley
     
  10. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom, I'll have a few in hand Saturday morning. Will ship ASAP.
     
  11. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Keith,
    I can use them I owe Mr. Ken Wulfert a few as he has come to the rescue to keep the project moving.
    On a similar note, the attached shows the project is progressing a bit. The O/W one has the lettering Soda blasted and the Model Masters Sunburst paint over the Athearn R/O paint. As you can see it matches a Genesis GP15 very close.
    The black ones have the details on except I ran out of 4 cluster MU hose (DW256). And painted with Model Masters Glossy Black.
    Will let them dry a few days now before any additional work.

    Thanks,
    Tom Holley
     

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  12. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Tom, your painting skills are excellant. Very crisp lines.
     
  13. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Nice work Tom, as always. Look at how ominous those three Darth Vaders look. Love it!

    Have you decided on road numbers yet?

    I need to come out some time so you can give me a training course on how to neatly mask a model. Well done.

    Ken
     
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  14. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Jim and Ken
    |-|I always cut my own edge for the color separation lines, and always us good tape, don't get in a hurry.|-|
    Ken,
    |-|Yes Sir, those Black engines absorb all light and are very ominous at best. I have used Green 3-M tape for years. it sticks good to paint and plastic:eek: As far as numbers? I will let John Peluso and Keith Robinson make those calls, Although I will insist they not be duplicates:D
    I so far, only have decals for 1 1/2 engines, needs me some Yellow decals, can't even finish Mine or Keith's as yet. John's will likely be the first finished, but its all good:).
    But a question. If a person was to model the latest O/W GP35 what would the nose stripes look like? Are they Yellow in appearance? Or are they essentially non-existent? My intention is to model the latest O/W version.|-|
    Thanks!
    Tom Holley
     
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  15. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom -

    Did you get the contact address I sent you for the b/y Frisco hood unit (GP7) decals that we got earlier? I don't know if they are still available or not.

    The initial repaints of the "Torpedo Boat" GP35's into the o/w scheme had nose stripes. See the pic of SLSF 716 (Frisco repaint). Initially they were almost the same shade as the red/orange color of the body, but were applied via a Scotch-Lite system, probably tape applied. They did not weather well, and faded badly, first to a pale orange, then to almost a light yellow color, then to a faint gray yellow. Eventually you could hardly see them any more. See the second pic of 716. Subsequent GP35's in o/w generally skipped the nose saftey stripes, though they possibly did show up on a few of the later units.

    If your o/w unit will be new looking, do the stripes in r/o. For a later, weathered unit, I'd suggest a pale yellow, or a very faint orange.

    Personally, I think the o/w GP35 looks far better without the nose stripes. JMO (just my opinion)!

    Ken
     

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  16. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Ken,
    This is just crazy but I was just on the phone with Keith R. and you posted about same regarding decals. Talk about Scuttlebutt communications!.
    Well I guess a very "faded Grey" is in order or more to my preference, " non-existent" could be in order.
    Yep this is the very best web site on the net for sure. Wish I could have all of you here at my house for Thanksgiving/Christmas/ well anytime.
    We could go to Durango, rent a Narrow Gauge caboose for the day (with refreshments) and swap stories with the best for a afternoon. And give the crew fits to boot:D:D
    Thanks Ken and Jimmy
    Tom Holley
     
  17. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    |-||-|Here we go a bit more progress.
    The 706 is mine. I will weather it heavily and install the window glazing, and put it to work:)

    The 716 is mine. I will weather it as close as I can to some photos, install the window glazing, finish, and put it to work too.

    The 703 belongs to John Peluso. John is gonna finish it, install his own DCC and Window glazing weather to his desire and hopefully enjoy it for many years. But John I get first dibs on this if you ever decide to get rid of it:D

    The 714 belongs to Keith Robinson. Keith was good enough to install DCC and Sound on my GP 35. I am sure Keith has some sound and other goodies, and finish.
    I welcome input from these guys or others on the project so far. Same for you Keith. I get first dibs if you ever want to get rid of your too.:D

    Thanks to all that have had input and helped to push this project along.
    Thanks,
    Tom Holley|-||-|
     

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  18. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Eye candy!
     
  19. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    As they say in Cajun country, OOH LA LA, WHOOEY! BEA U TI FUL! I'm sure John is as pleased as I am just looking at the pictures. I also think John has some desires for that great Tsunami sound.
     
  20. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Super work Tom! Love those Darth Vaders, and the o/w as well. Nice job on the larger fuel tank, and of course, the air tanks up top. PT boats live on!

    Stick an SD45 on either side of them and roar away with a prototypical consist.

    Ken
     

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