Genesis SLSF GP15-1s Are Delayed Again

Discussion in 'New Products' started by Rick McClellan, Mar 16, 2011.

  1. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    Wholesale Trains indicates that now the SLSF GP15-1s will be in April 20. I believe this is the fourth delay (Oct/10, Dec/10, Feb/10, Mar/10 and now 4/10).

    It would be good marketing strategy if they would

    (1) Drive a stake in the ground on the arrival date
    (2) Put out a press release on the arrival date and reason for the multiple time delays
     
  2. FriscoFriend

    FriscoFriend Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    These will have the option of changing the horn to replicate the Leslie Model the Frisco used. Upon arrival I will post the proper CV setting to do so. As far as the sound quality is concerned, we will just have to wait and see. I feel the Tsunami's in my GP38's sound really good, but they also have a custom built sound chamber and a great speaker.
     
  3. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    If that is why we are waiting, it sure would have been nice if there was some sort of announcement AND a definite release date. This is almost the same way the Texas Special cars were produced by Overland. Delay, delay, delay AND the customer has to ask about it. Ay, yay, yay, yay . . . . . Can gray hair turn any whiter?
     
  4. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Back in early October when they pushed the date from Dec to Feb I asked on facebook about it and the person who takes care of that stuff. They said it probably has something to do with quality control and something not being right. From what I've heard from a few people is that it's not to uncommon to get something brand new from the RTR or genesis line with some sort of defect, normally a paint smear/smudge. I've never had this happen before though. I'll leave this to the rest of yall to figure out.

    Ethan

    EDIT: I thought of something else. Athearn makes there stuff in china so maybe some sort of delay in the shipping yards. I know that happened with the SD70ACE's
     
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  5. wmrx

    wmrx MP Trainmaster

    As aggravating as this is, let's hope that it results in a stellar product once it reaches the retail shelf. I have two of Athearn's SD70ACe's and I am disappointed in both of them. These were delayed a few times and when they finally showed up, the trucks were defective!:mad:

    I don't know what the issues are, but a delay will be worth it, if it means problems are being corrected.
     
  6. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    The latest date on the Athearn website is 5/17/2011. This is the fifth release date. Soon they will be one year late based on their initial release date of October 2010.
     
  7. FriscoFriend

    FriscoFriend Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Even at that they are still ahead of the Overland Brass Cabooses:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:!
     
  8. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    While we wait, my Walthers GP15-1 SLSF 105,and all the detail parts I hung on it, continues to do its thing. Yes, the color is a bit too red, but I continue to be amazed at how well it runs with Genesis, Intermountain, Stewart and Kato mates in a consist. It runs better than most Proto 2000 and Athearns I have. And, it looks OK as well.

    Ken

    ps: I wonder what one of these would look like in b/y? ;):)
     
  9. FriscoFriend

    FriscoFriend Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Wholesale Trains is saying they will be available after 5/20/2011. Today is 5/10 so that's 10 days and counting. Is this the "Final Countdown"?
     
  10. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Late June! That makes delay #7 and a total of a 8 month delay! I took the these units off my list when they bumped them from Dec. to February.

    Ethan
     
  11. FriscoFriend

    FriscoFriend Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    I'm fairly certain that once the box arrives in the mail and we open up one of these that all of the delays will be quickly forgotten. Delays like this seem to be a sign of the times. At least they haven't been canceled.
     
  12. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I think we need to remember (I agree it's frustrating) that these initial release dates are at best a big SWAG. Much of the delay is due to the manufacturer cleaning up errors on its initial prototype that we, among many others, point out.

    Only Kadee seems to be good at meeting their dates, but they generally don't announce an item until a few months before release. Kadee has always been secretive about what new items they will be bringing along. Remember the big mystery prior to the announcement of their 2-bay offset side hopper? I was betting on a three-bay PS-2 covered hopper instead - totally wrong!

    Ken
     
  13. FriscoFriend

    FriscoFriend Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken makes a great point and hopefully in this case the delay makes certain that the bell was indeed moved to the correct location. As far as Kadee is concerned, judging by their recent releases they are going in the direction of producing modernized boxcars. Maybe its time to get them to produce the modernized rebuilt version of the PS1 sans the roofwalk and bearing the large coonskin. Hint! Hint!
     
  14. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I have one of the new GP15-1's ordered and look forward to getting it. I want to see how my upgraded Walthers GP15-1 looks next to it - perhaps I will see more areas for upgrading it. Except for it's too-red color, it looks (and runs) very well for an inexpensive locomotive model. We'll see.

    Ken
     
  15. wpmoreland719

    wpmoreland719 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I agree with Ken's assessment of the Walther's Trainline GP15. I had one (gave away recently to a good friend), and it was probably my best performing locomotive. It didn't have the right horn or pilot, and the red was too deep, but man that thing was smooth! It could easily handle 30-35 cars by itself around 18" curves and was quiet as a church mouse. And I paid about $35.00 for it new in 2003. By contrast, my Genesis F3 bucks and stalls unless the track is freshly cleaned, and the constant diesel start up sound gets annoying after awhile. Plus, I had to hold the sound remote control almost directly on top of it to get the horn to work. The bell was marginally better, and I quickly gave up on the sound features. That is why I'm not real excited about the new Genesis GP15's. If you guys get one and have good luck with it, I may try to pick one up in a year or so on eBay.

    Pat Moreland,
    Union Mo.
     
  16. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I have pics of my Walthers GP15-1 in my album on frisco.org. I think I hung about 5-lbs of detail parts on it, and, except for the too deep red color and the thick handrails, it looks pretty good to my eye. As Pat confirms, it runs sweet. I wish Walthers would offer their GP15-1 drive as a retro-fit for old Proto 2000 units!

    Ken
     
  17. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    Pat,

    The SLSF GP15-1s should be available when you come to my layout in June. If they are delayed again, you can run my CNW and MP GP15-1s. I think they run pretty good.
     
  18. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Rick, I think gray/white hair turning any whiter would result in translucence.

    Good points all around. While I laud their efforts to get it right, it does seem to be an unfortunate tendency of businesses in general to poorly communicate why delays are occuring. I don't know why they do it: it's just not good business practice.

    It also seems to imply that the consumer/end-user/etc. has the critical thinking skills and deductive ability of a blueberry pie, i.e. "Maybe if we don't say too much about the delay, no one will be upset or ask too many questions."

    Former NBA coach Frank Leyden once supposedly asked a player: "What's wrong with you? Is it ignorance, or is it apathy?" To which the player is alleged to have replied: "Coach, I don't know...and I don't care."

    Whether it's ignorance or apathy or none of the above on the part of the manufacturers, it's not a good way to win customers and influence buyers.

    Best Regards,
     
  19. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    I can't say I know how y'all feel, but I certainly hope that this engine meets up to y'all's expectations. You've waited a long time for it. I certainly hope that the FRISCO ORANGE hasn't come out wrong. Keep us posted and post up some pics when they arrive. I'm curious...

    Thanks!

    Manny
     
  20. wpmoreland719

    wpmoreland719 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I tried to respond to this with a quote of Rick's post, but for whatever reason could not. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the operating session next month, and will probably want one of the GP15-1's once I get some time at the throttle. They should have a slightly longer wheelbase than the F3's, shouldn't they? If so, that should give them a little bit better performance (especially over turnouts) than what I have experienced with my sole F3.

    Pat Moreland,
    Union Mo.
     

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