Discussion in 'Rolla-Lebanon Subdivision' started by Rick Morgan, Dec 23, 2007.
Thanks Brad! Do you have any pics of the DOD power based at Ft Wood?
Here is a few shots of the Fort's motive power.
Thanks Brad! Good looking stuff for the Army - somehow I figured their locomotives would be either black or olive drab colored.
Does the Army take their loads clear into Newburg, or do they drop them off somewhere still on the Fort branch at Bundy Jct for the BNSF to pick up?
Brad Slone wrote Monday, 4/25/11: "There has been very little traffic over the last year..."
Well, you are likely to see some traffic Tuesday 4/26/11. Some TOFC (TANKS on Flat Cars!) went by westbound on the Cuba Sub around 08:30 at the head end of the merchandiser. I was unable to count and even less able to photograph. Given the state of the laws, those are good circumstances.
Further research suggests, to me, the original South Pacific RR survey may have intended the line to run through Waynesville, (county seat of Pulaski County). Due to the Civil War, Army Control and tunnel cave-in, the second survey took the alignment from Arlington Northwards.
The ""20 miles of grading, two partially cut tunnels west of Rolla" sort of coincices with the present day I-44 mile markers, Rolla exit # 182, Ft. Leonard Wood exit #163.
The "two partially cut tunnels" may have been in the general area of TWP 36N, 11W. Sections 3,4,5, and continue wesward into 12 W? These tunnels would get the RR to Roubidous Creek, into Waynewville and on to Springfield.
Any comments and/or additional information will be sincerely appreciate.
Should this be posted in the "Map" section, please do so.
Sorry I missed answering your question way back, guess I just missed it. The Army takes cars back to Bundy and leaves them on a run around siding south of the Piney bridge. The siding has a name although I can't recall it at the moment. The BNSF then backs in on the branch and heads out on either leg of the wye depending were their destination is. We should be finished replacing the small trestles on the west leg by the end of the year, the east leg is complete. The First Iowa Division was down last weekend with their motor cars riding the branch, they have some nice photos of the run on their website.
Please write an article on the Ft. Leonard Wood Line for The Meteor, thank you.
Guys, for those who look for interesting prototype loads to model. This weekend I was talking to a fellow that worked on Fort Leonard Wood back in the 50's & 60's. He told me they had a ramp that could handle three dump trucks at a time, bear in mind these were old single axle trucks with probably 4 - 5 yd beds. These trucks would go out to the ranges and return loaded full of spent brass casings, they would back up the ramp and dump them loose into an awaiting gondola. He said they would send at least a car a week out loaded, probably heading to a contracted recycler somewhere. Just thought it was kind of an interesting story that I thought some of you would enjoy.
Great story Brad ...... what a neat gondola load this would make! What could we use to model spent cartridge casings? Mostly 30-caliber? Any big stuff?
I had my USO shift this morning at Lambert STL. We had a bunch Fort Leonard Wood Marines coming from FLW going to Okinawa, and then a few Army Engineer troops going back down to FLW. Next time I'm going to ask what all they fire off down there these days.
I was an Army Engineer Corps ROTC type down at MSM, Rolla - 1960-1962. The only thing they let us shoot was 22-Long Rifle (at Rolla, not at FLW). It would take a long time on the range to fill up a gon with those little brass tid-bits!
Stumbled across a few interesting photos taken along the Ft Branch the other day thought I'd share a little, so this is one taken looking south on warehouse row. I have seen this photo before but until now never been able to secure a digital copy of it. There is some very interesting details to be gleamed from it upon closer examination, one of which is the car in the lower right corner. Until I was able to look at it closer I thought it was one of the high center sill stockcars, but it is not. It's a 13000 series boxcar the likes of which I had never seen before and upon looking it up in my ORER I noticed it is listed as a 36' car, which I didn't know the Frisco even had. I thought is was some pretty interesting stuff.
Never being one who could keep from messing with stuff, I offer this.
That is a real gem, Brad. There it is in the 1943 ORER. I haven't looked yet in the more recent editions that were in the old FMIG newsletters. If I had to guess, it seems like a relic that would have been kept around for the wartime traffic spike, but probably would not have lasted long afterward.
Wonder if anyone has drawings, better pictures, etc. for this one?
I don't know my military equipment, but the photo looks like the '40-'45 range?
Sure would be a fun scene to model. Maybe Steve Hurt needs another RPM project for Collinsville next year.
HAHA thanks Chris, I was just thinking "what could I do in my spare time?"
I do agree though, that would be a great scene. A bunch of my relatives were involved with that place too.
I think there are Jeeps, Dodge WCs, and M3 Gun Motor Carriages in the photo. The M3GMC was in use 1942-43, so I'd guess it's from then.
Did the government/military finance the building of the branch and then contract the Frisco to operate it for them? If not and the Frisco constructed the branch then did the US Army purchase it from Frisco in 1973 or was just turned over to Army to get rid of the branch?
The first is correct, the military paid to have the branch constructed and contracted the Frisco to operate it until traffic levels dropped to the point were it was no longer made sense.
A couple pics I copied out of my dads stash. The 0-4-0 as the Ft. Wood branch was being built. His uncle is the engineer.
According to the Doolittle Rural Fire Protection's Facebook page
It has been brought to our attention that the railroad traffic in our district is expected to increase from Fort Leonard Wood to the Newburg area. Please make sure you take the time to read this whole post.
This is post that a citizen made regarding the railroad traffic:
The railroad tracks in the Mill Creek watershed are hardly noticed since they carry only occasional train loads between Fort Leonard Wood and the main line at Bundy Junction near Arlington. There are road crossings at state highways J and P. The crossing at P is quiet and nearly a blind intersection with lights that rarely activate, so we sometimes forget it's there and speed on through. If traveling in this area, please watch out as --according to this note from FLW today (13Aug20)-- there will be increased train traffic. "There will be an increased amount of railway traffic starting on Fort Leonard Wood and extending to on or around the Jerome Exit north of Fort Leonard Wood just off of I44. Railway work will continue for the next three to six weeks ending approximately 30 September 2020. Vehicle traffic should obey all signals unless directed by railway crew or law enforcement personnel to proceed. For those crossings without audible or visual red flashing lights, extreme caution should be taken by both military and civilian personnel, both on and off the installation, in carefully checking the track in both directions prior to proceeding across it."
Both of these crossing have visual warnings but no barriers. Make sure you come to a complete stop before crossing."
I wonder what they're doing? Just replacing rails and ties?
It may have something to do with the fact the Marines are divesting themselves of virtually all tracked vehicles, mostly tanks and they are being divided up in the Army after getting repainted and re-marked.
They have been re ballasting the line.
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