Ft. Leonard Wood line

Discussion in 'Rolla-Lebanon Subdivision' started by Rick Morgan, Dec 23, 2007.

  1. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Spelling correction Big Piney!
     
  2. john

    john FRISCO.org Supporter

    Ft Leonard Wood ETT #1, 1 Sep 1950
     

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  3. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    Hoping no one minds, I took the liberty of doing some "surgery" on attachments of the previous post. It was tricky switching back and forth from one to the other.
     

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  4. john

    john FRISCO.org Supporter

    I'm sorry about that. The original was too large for me to scan both sides (at the same time) with my scanner. I also forgot to "cut" the resolution when I posted it, so while it would probably print out great it's sort of difficult to read (when enlarged) from the website.

    John
     
  5. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    No problem. Apparently neither scanners nor basements (or wherever the layout goes) can ever be large enough!
     
  6. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Brad, I frankly like "Bib Piney" better. Sounds like a place where the trees are tall and all the good railroaders wear a good pair of overalls.

    For what it's worth!

    Best Regards,
     
  7. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Ft. Leonard Wood line shown on the USGS maps

    Here are scans of the line taken from the DEVILS ELBOW, KAINTUCK HOLLOW, and NEWBURG 1:24,000 US Geological Survey maps. The center line of each track is shown. Estimated (by me) mile posts are marked in pencil.

    Actually, there is some straight track. All three passing sidings are on straights.

    The Yahoo "Military Rails" group site has several photos taken on the Fort Wood Railroad.

    Enjoy, Doug
     

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    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

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  9. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I also found a great photo of Wern Siding on Google Images.
     

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  10. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Ft. Leonard Wood Yard

    My .pdf versions of All Aboard for December 90-January 91 have page 18 in low resolution. I have also lost my hard copy.

    Can anyone fat finger the 21 car spotting numbers and names from the track schematic at the top of p. 18 and post them here?

    It looks like a fantastic LDE for a switching layout.

    Thanks, Doug
     
  11. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Doug - I have the issue. Tell me specifically what you want - the 21-item list on the left side of the diagram? It's hard to read, but under magnification I think I can do it.

    Ken
     
  12. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Yes, that's it.
     
  13. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Doug -

    Here is the list:

    202 - Munger Spur
    204 - I.P. Gas Spots
    206 - Asphalt Spots
    208 - Tobin Team Track
    209 - Coal Spur Team Track
    211 - Fuel Oil Spots
    213 - Post Engineer No. 1 Team Track
    215 - Pole Racks
    221 - Post Engineer ???? Doors? (poor reproduction!)
    223 - Pipe Racks
    225 - Gasoline Spurs
    227 - Scrap Tin Bins
    229 - Loading Ramp
    235 - Stoker Coal Unloading (4 Spots)
    237 - Range Coal Unloading (12 Spots)
    302 - Ramp Tracks Nos. 1 & 2
    320 - Ramp Tracks Nos. 3 & 4
    322 - Boiler House
    326 - Bakery
    340 - Pastery Bakery (yes, that's how they spelled pastry!)
    360 - Gun Spur Ramp


    Let me know if you need anything else.

    Ken
     
  14. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    Why is there a discontinuity ("big bump up") in the numbers between 237 and 302 on the list?

    "237 - Range Coal Unloading (12 Spots)
    302 - Ramp Tracks Nos. 1 & 2"
     
  15. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Wow! Thanks Ken. That was a lot of switching in it's prime (WWII era).

    Those warehouses and ramps are still there.

     
  16. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Munger was the name of a Devil's Elbow restaurant owner family. When Rt. 66 bypassed Devil's Elbow, they rebuilt on 66 at Lebanon. Then I-44 was built and bypassed the Lebanon restaurant too.

    Photographers have loved Devil's Elbow for years.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/dustinholmes/tags/devilselbow/

     
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  17. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    George - My mom and dad (Captain, US Army, WW2) told me many times "never, never try to explain the US Army!" :) ;) :D

    Ken
     
  18. Peddling Joe

    Peddling Joe Frisco Employee

    At Arlington, the RR (going westward) crosses the river and curves northward. Just to the south of the bridge are/were some bridge abutments (?) that may go back to the 1860's? On 4-11-11 I could not see them because of the evergreen and budding hardwood trees. The original South Pacific RR was being constructed from Arlington to Waynesville enroute to Springfield. A RR tunnel bore caved in, the Civil War and military control stopped this and a new survey took the RR northward at Arlington. Can you find the tunnel, etc. on your USG Maps. It reportedly is near where the main gate to FLW was located, in 1940. Also Miner's, The St. Louis-San Francisco Transcontinental Railroad, The Thirty-Fifth Parallel Project, 1853-1890 p 53 footnotes the Nov 9, 1865 Missouri Weekly Patriot mentions "20 miles of grading, two partially cut tunnels west of Rolla"
     
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  19. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Those of you who are in the area ..... how much traffic to/from Ft Wood does the line see today? What does the switching - their own locomotive, or does the BNSF switch the Fort?

    I was at a meeting at the USO here at Lambert STL airport last Tuesday and saw a bus load of new recruits assemble there before their ride down to Ft Wood. In the old days, of course, they would have a ride on the Frisco to enjoy before their Ft Wood experience started.

    Ken
     
  20. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken,

    There has been very little traffic over the last year as we have been in the process of replacing some of the trestles over the line. We should wrap up the current projects by late Spring early Summer. There is some discussion and plans are in place for future projects to replace sone of the larger trestles, however funding is a concern. Current traffic is almost completely equipment on 89 foot flatcars, once in a while they will ship a container or two. When units where shipping out to the Gulf about five years ago traffic levels surged to the point they had to get assistance form BNSF, but that's a rarity. Duties are handled by DOD personnel using a pair of Army Paducah GP-7 rebuilds and a rebuilt GP-40-2.
     
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