Frisco Railroad video

Discussion in 'General' started by geep07, Mar 14, 2018.

  1. geep07

    geep07 Member

    There is a old video titled Frisco Railroad F-Unit Cab Ride by Bill Wirtel on You Tube.

    A bit jumpy at first, but good shots pulling into yard downtown St. Louis, Lindenwood Yard.
  2. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member Supporter

    A neat ride. Sure shows you how much rail infrastructure was in place back in the day. I mean there were switches and industries everywhere, and that trackage into the passenger stations. Can you imagine the workforce just to maintain all those double slip switches alone?
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  3. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporter

    At 1:27 in the video, Missouri Utilities in Cape Girardeau is on the left and the north end of the floodwall in Cape is ahead. At 1:59 the train is on the Freeze siding at Cape Rock. At 2:35 North Freeze. At 3:06 Trail of Tears State Park. At 12:38 it looks like Chaffee, MO. At 13:27 I recognize Engineer Clifford Pobst stepping out of the E8A on the Sunnyland.
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  4. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Supporter

    And early on in the video, we see the "Headless Humpster", Alco S-2 SLSF 292, at work as a "booster unit" on the hump at TN Yard. Neat! I've seen and have several pics of 292, but never have seen it in action on a video. Cool!
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2018
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  5. pensive

    pensive Member Supporter

    Here are the trains and places that I recognized in the film:

    1:56 Missouri Pacific freight
    5:49 Frisco freight in siding
    6:38 Passenger train
    7:05 Crystal City
    7:10 PPG factory
    7:42 pedestrian bridge
    8:15 Highway 61 on right
    9:12 Meramec River bridge
    9:43 Lindenwood Yard
    10:15 Union Station
    11:16 Tower Grove station
    11:44 Scullen Steel
    11:54 Fyler Ave. bridge
    12:11 Southeast Junction

    Last edited: Mar 15, 2018
  6. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Here are the places that I recognize in the film:

    11:32 Arched overpass was Hampton Ave. Now replaced with a modern structure.
    11:38 Dutch Boy Paint. Still There!
    11:47 Ammunition Plant. Used as a warehouse now.
    11:53 Arsenal St. overpass. Now replaced as a modern structure.
    11:55 Fyler Ave. bridge. Gone.
    12:05 Laclede Gas storage tanks. Gone.

  7. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporter

    I missed this when it originally posted - but wow. This is a real gem. Starting at 12:19, they're approaching the Chaffee yard. State Route M is the road on the right.

    Spot on, Keith. That's definitely Clifford. Based on he and the other crew members posing alongside "Big Red," I believe this was 9-17-1965: the last run of Train #807, the southbound "Sunnyland." This is based on the crew members, motive power, the crowd of onlookers at the depot and the fact that the consist included 3 coaches - rather out of the ordinary for this time, but necessary for all of those who wanted one last ride.

    Clifford was the fireman on that run, along with Engineer James Barnes. As they pose beside Big Red around 13:35, James Barnes is on the left, Clifford Pobst on the right.

    For more information on this train on this day:

    A Moment of Silence

    The Sunnyland (807/808)

    I am not sure who the other crew members are; there is a conductor visible but I'm not sure if that is John Montgomery, who was conductor on the last #807. I'll show this to Mom and Dad and see if they recognize any of the crew or spectators.

    I would assume that the last train shown might be #808 pulling into Chaffee?

    Best Regards,
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  8. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member Supporter

    I definitely recognize Cape Rock Park area and Trail of Tears campground. Hasn’t changed too awfully much.
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  9. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporter

    That is fun to see, Ken. I've never seen any actual film of the Frisco's two hump yards. I'm going to have to find or re-download a map of Tennessee Yard and try to get a feel for for the switching moves.

    Thanks to all for providing the time-keys of various portions of this one. John, thanks for the heads-up, too. Didn't Bill Wirtel used to be a member on this site? I can't find his handle anywhere.

    I have a feeling I'm going to be watching and re-watching quite a bit.

    Best Regards,
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  10. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Supporter

    The "Headless Humpster" was another example of the Frisco cleverly making use of a cab-end wrecked switcher (S-2 SLSF 292) that still had some useful operating time on it. They ran it as a booster on the hump at TY for quite some time until its crankshaft broke.
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  11. gmankc

    gmankc New Member Supporter

    Thanks for the great video - I missed it earlier. Sure does bring back memories of spending time at my grandmother's house, as well as hanging out at the Crystal City depot.

    6:19-6:29 Kennett's Castle (Selma Castle) is the large square white structure on the (left side)

    As mentioned earlier, Crystal City pops up at 7:10 with images of PPG factory on the left, the depot on the right and goes under the Mississippi Avenue bridge. This is followed by a grade crossing (forgot the street name in Crystal City), then the trestle over the M-I tracks above Hwy 61-67. The pedestrian bridge at 7:43 is in Festus, shortly after crossing the trestle. Up comes the old depot in Festus, then finally crosses Mill Street.


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