Frisco 4-8-4 Northerns, SLSF 4500-4524

Discussion in 'Steam Locomotive Diagrams' started by meteor910, Jan 13, 2010.

  1. Railfanatic1522

    Railfanatic1522 Austin Jackson

    These are side elevations, do you have any front elevations?
     
  2. RAILDATA

    RAILDATA Member

    Hi Ken,

    What year is your diagram book(s) you posted the dgms from? I have several going back to 1904, but have a lot of holes. Perhaps we could trade copies of scans?

    Allen Stanley
    Greer, SC
     
  3. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Allen -

    If you have Frisco diagrams that you think would be of interest to the group, post them. That's what I do.

    I have many Frisco locomotive diagram books - multiple years.

    What diagrams are you interested in to fill your holes?

    Ken
     
  4. Railfanatic1522

    Railfanatic1522 Austin Jackson

    Ken -

    If its not too much to ask I would like to see a scan of the Frisco 4500 front Elevations if that is possible

    -AJ
     
  5. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    AJ - Unfortunately, none of the Frisco locomotive diagram books contain front elevations for the 4500's to my knowledge.

    Ken
     
  6. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    AJ - As an addendum to my post above, there was a SLSF 4500 drawing published in FMIG Newsletter #5, November, 1976, page 15. I attach it below. It's not a great copy, but perhaps it will fill your needs.

    Ken
     

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  7. Railfanatic1522

    Railfanatic1522 Austin Jackson

    Ken -

    This helps alot! thanks!

    -AJ
     
  8. RAILDATA

    RAILDATA Member

    Hi Ken & All,

    I have several steam loco diagram books going back to 1904. Posting them is a chore as I have a dial up connection here at home. They jump from 1904 to 1930 to 1943 & 47, & 1950. I believe I sent Mike Corley a CD back when I first joined here some time back and thought he was going to post them. Then again I cant remember what I put in my coffee this morning.

    In looking over the steam roster posted on line I find the notoation in many of the early locos "In diagram book but not in any printed rosters". Since my 1904 book does not show most of these I would presume there was an earlier book floating around. That is one I was trying to locate. Then if I could locate any say between 1904 & 1930 or 1930 - 43 etc they would be helpful. List of locos or equipment are very helpful in many circumstances but dont fill all my needs. If anyone knows who did the roster originally (someone suggested Vollrath) and or what book it is referring to it would be helpful to us.

    A few freinds and I are near having the software written to do an all time N American steam loco database. It will be way more complex than what would first come to mind. The diagram books & equipment lists are very valuable to help with capacities, dimensions, weights, tender data etc.

    I have no probelms sharing my materials and do almost daily. I have over 10,000 items in my collection, mostly loco, freight and passenger diagram books & equipment lists, track charts, ETTs, steam loco rosters & builders lists etc. If I can help anyone please contact me off forum at raildata@yahoo.com If anyone can help me it would be most appreciated.

    Allen Stanley
    Greer, SC
     
  9. kevin mclarty

    kevin mclarty Member

    Do you know where I can find the technical data on the 4500?
     
  10. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Kevin, the drawings posted at the very beginning of this thread may have the data for which you're looking. If not, just let us know the specifics of what you're needing and I suspect someone here can provide.

    Best Regards,
     
  11. kevin mclarty

    kevin mclarty Member

    Thank you, I found what I needed.
     
  12. kevin mclarty

    kevin mclarty Member

    Hello group; I would like to know what the blue color is called, and if floquil has a close match.
     
  13. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter


    The Frisco called it Zephyr Blue. In the Floquil spectrum, C&O (or is it B&O?) Enchantment Blue will get you close.
     
  14. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    When we painted our support cars, we used a US Paint catalyzed urethane called "Flag Blue" and it worked good for us.
     
  15. kevin mclarty

    kevin mclarty Member

    Thank you both
     
  16. kevin mclarty

    kevin mclarty Member

    Does anyone have a list of the cars pulled by the Meteor on one its earlyruns?
     
  17. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Are you referring to the era when the Meteor was pulled by the 4500's? (Which would be about 1942-1948) Some consists could be re-created from timetables of the era, especially the sleeping car lines.

    Tom G.
     
  18. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    Timing is everything; TRRA Historical Society has one of their magazines on The Meteor in the works, but you have to wait until November 2015. See the bottom of the page of this link: http://trra-hts.railfan.net/bkissues.html

    George "waiting patiently" Nelson
     
  19. tmfrisco

    tmfrisco Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I don't want to wish my life away, but I am drooling over this being available. This will be a definite buy for me. The TRRA books are fantastic, and I am sure this one will be also.

    Terry
     
  20. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    George, thanks for the heads-up. Sounds like a must-have.

    In the meantime, for those yearning for more instant gratification, I would think there's basic details around this site somewhere in terms of heavyweight Meteor consists from the war years. Maybe something in one of the old Frisco Museum "All Aboards" when they'd list various passenger consists?

    Best Regards,
     

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