Frisco 4-8-4 Northerns, SLSF 4500-4524

Discussion in 'Steam Locomotive Diagrams' started by meteor910, Jan 13, 2010.

  1. Steve40cal

    Steve40cal Member

    Removeable parts including the main rods are not on the locomotive to prevent them from walking away. I know the main rods wouldn't be carried off but they are removed to help with moving the engine. The cab is pretty empty, no seats or any other easily removed parts. If they plan on adding all the goodies I hope the new park has a tall fence! Steve |-|
  2. They need a tall Electric fence I hope they do put all the details on. Won't look right with out it. Thanks for the info Mark.
    Ship it on the Frisco!!!

    Murphy Jenkins:)
  3. HWB

    HWB Supporter

    I hope somebody in Tulsa gets some video of the move. I'm tempted to drop everything and head that way just to see it
  4. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Supporter

    All this makes me think about the 4500 (I forget #??) at the old Age Of Steam Museum at Dallas that they're hoping to move 35 or 40 miles to the city of Frisco, Texas. A huge undertaking! I mentioned the other day that the Springfield City Parks wanted to move 4524 only about half a block to the entrance of Grant Beach Park, but gave up the idea quickly...I hope they don't turn 4500 over on its side or get the drive wheels on the ground while they're trying to move it!

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  5. Frisco2008

    Frisco2008 Member Supporter

  6. Steve40cal

    Steve40cal Member

    I didn't know they were going to put the headlight and bell on for the move! I had to type in the link to get it to work but it was worth it! I spent all day yesterday on the Oklahoma sub looking for artifacts at old semaphore signal locations. Amazing how much things change in 25 years. Steve.|-|
  7. Steve40cal

    Steve40cal Member

    I went over at lunch time and found the 4500 tucked inside the fence at the Sinclair (if its still called that) refinery East of Southwest Blvd and south of 21st Street. Nice razor wire on top of the fence and locked gates. Sure was shining in the mid day sun.
  8. FRISCO4503

    FRISCO4503 FRISCO4503 Supporter

    I am usually a man who can ramble on and on about stuff, but all I can say about how she looks is WOW! I remember seeing her down in Owasso when she was in really sad sad shape. And I have kept up with her progress, She is looking Absolutely Beautiful! Too bad she cant run, that would be a huge bonus, but to see her in her original livery, ABSOLUTELY GEORGEOUS!
  9. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Supporter

    Somebody give me a little refresher here--4500 is at Tulsa; 4501 at Dallas, supposedly to be moved to Frisco, TX. Is 4502 still in existence?

    Thanks, Tom

    PS: If I were an HO modeler, I would have sold the farm to get one of those Glacier Park 4500's!
  10. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

  11. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Supporter

  12. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Sadly, 4502 was cut up. I guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad considering the NYC didn't save a Hudson or Niagara and the MP didn't save any engines.
  13. mvtelegrapher

    mvtelegrapher Member

    The 4500 wouldn't have been scrapped, the owner of the SKOL where it was stored let the city of Tulsa know that if they did not want the locomotive he had a group that would have saved it from being scrapped. I'm glad it worked out that it got to stay in Tulsa, they did a fantastic job of putting it back together. I looked at it and the pieces before they started and it was a huge job putting it back together.

    John Chambers
  14. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Supporter

    John--Does SKOL ever have anything like an excursion or railfan event?

    Thanks, Tom
  15. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Would that group be heart of the heartlands?

    And Tom, SKOL is the railroad that all the excursions from Carona and Pittsburg come out of. They use the 3 passenger cars that heart of the heartland's has, but they are pulled (normally) by a SKOL diesel on SKOL tracks. John Chambers could give more information.
  16. mvtelegrapher

    mvtelegrapher Member

    Yes, the SKOL has excursion rides using their three coaches. We just had rides out of Bartlesville last weekend and there are rides in Cherryvale this Saturday at 10:00 a.m., 1:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. The Heart of the Heartlands is the group that coordinates the trips and acts as the car attendents. See the following website for more information: Saturday's trip is the last until later this Fall. Tickets are $8.00 per person for a one hour round trip, children on laps free. They are on sale now at banks in Cherryvale and at city hall. If interested in going send me an email and I can have some tickets set aside and you can pay on Saturday. Boarding is from the former Santa Fe depot in downtown Cherryvale and you should be on site 30 minutes before departure. We will sell any unused tickets or empty seats about five minutes before departure.

    John Chambers
    Heartlands President
  17. mark

    mark Member


    I believe Frisco caboose SLSF 1186 (2nd) is on the move being reconditioned and painted for display with the 4500.

    The caboose had been located north of 100 Pecan St, Sand Springs, OK. This is south of the U.S. Highway 64/412 (a/k/a Keystone Expressway), east of N. Wilson Ave. (a/k/a Oklahoma State Highways 51/97) and west of S. Main St.

    The caboose had been extensively vandalized and hopefully it will be properly restored and safely displayed.

    Hope this helps.


  18. Joe Lovett

    Joe Lovett Member


    Went in search of 4500 yesterday to take some photos. It is located about 350 feet SSE of W 25th St and S Jackson Ave. Several photos were taken but only one frame was the best. Beware of local security gaurd. I parked at enterance of local company for several photos and was told I was on city property and asked to leave. Moved to North side of 25th street and took more photos, again he returned and this time told me it was not worth being killed over and pulled his gun on me. Needless to say I left. Didnt realize you could be shot for parking on side of a public street!!! Photo was taken with 35mm camera and 135 telephoto lens.


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  19. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    It would be nice for that same guard to maintain that degree of devotion so 4500 can stay as nice as it looks. If he pulls a gun on a photographer, would there be a proportionate response to a thief or graffiti vandal?
  20. s3bvikingasw

    s3bvikingasw Member

    I really wish I had seen this thread three weeks ago when I was still at the U of Tulsa... story of my life thus far, I guess. Just a little too late. If I'm ever back down there (which I'm sure I will be), I'll have to see this for myself. And as for that whole gun thing, that just doesn't sound right. You sure that wasn't just some crazy guy with a gun?

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