Trains No 117 And No 118, The Firefly - Ft. Scott, KS-Tulsa, OK - Last Run - 5/22/1960

Discussion in 'Passenger Operations' started by Rick Morgan, Jan 21, 2007.

  1. Rick Morgan

    Rick Morgan Member

    Can anyone confirm the date of the Firefly's last run?

    I have it around December 1959 but would like to verify the date.

    Rick Morgan
     
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  2. arkrail

    arkrail Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The Firefly was still listed in the May 1960 Official Guide, with a through KC-Tulsa coach carried in No 107-108 north of Fort Scott.

    My notes indicate the train was discontinued May 23, 1960

    However, I do not know if that was the last run date or the "effective" date, the last run having occurred a day earlier.

    Bill
     
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  3. gbmott

    gbmott Member

    OK, to make this a little more challenging, when did the Firefly last operate with its original dedicated equipment?

    Did the train in its original form survive intact long enough to have been diesel-powered?

    Gordon
     
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  4. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Gordon,

    The Texas Flash ceased operations between Tulsa and Dallas on 5/1/47.

    It returned to its original Kansas City - Oklahoma City operation. The Firefly was discontinued between Tulsa and OKC on April 30,1950.

    Streamlined steam locomotives SLSF 1026 was retired on May 31, 1949, SLSF 1031 was retired on October 4, 1949, and SLSF 1018 was retired May 22, 1950. I believe that the trains were dieselized during February 1950 because of the coal strike that was affecting the nation at that time.

    The original train set did survive into the diesel era, albeit in green livery.

    The question becomes when did the train lose its Zephyr Blue livery?

    The Blue was gone Frisco-wide by 1955.
     
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  5. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    There is a list from the late Frisco Museum with the dates of the paintings and re-paintings of the "war years" Zephyr blue and light gray, actually Zephyr blue and off white, Firefly/Meteor paint scheme.

    That list is no doubt in the scanned museum newsletters on this forum. Where?

    Tom
     
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  6. gbnf

    gbnf Member

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